A new South Dakota policy to stop the use of gender pronouns by public university faculty and staff in official correspondence is also keeping Native American employees from listing their tribal affiliations in a state with a long and violent history of conflict with tribes.
Two University of South Dakota faculty members, Megan Red Shirt-Shaw and her husband, John Little, have long included their gender pronouns and tribal affiliations in their work email signature blocks. But both received written warnings from the university in March that doing so violated a policy adopted in December by the South Dakota Board of Regents.
“I was told that I had 5 days to remove my tribal affiliation and pronouns,” Little said in an email to The Associated Press. “I believe the exact wording was that I had ‘5 days to correct the behavior.’ If my tribal affiliation and pronouns were not removed after the 5 days, then administrators would meet and make a decision whether I would be suspended (with or without pay) and/or immediately terminated.”
The policy is billed by the board as a simple branding and communications policy. It came only months after Republican Gov. Kristi Noem sent a letter to the regents that railed against “liberal ideologies” on college campuses and called for the board to ban drag shows on campus and “remove all references to preferred pronouns in school materials,” among other things.
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So what do people call each other now? Fuckwit/fuckedwit?
Their names
They can only call each other their names.
Jim said Jim and Larry were gonna go to the store. So Jim says to Larry, “Hey Larry, what’s on your mind?” and Larry says “Nothing, Jim. Just wondering what time Larry and Jim’d get there at this pace”. Jim checks Jim’s watch and says “Jim and Larry’ve been walking about - what - ten minutes?”.
Jim stops a second, deep in thought. Jim scratches Jim’s chin as Jim thinks. “About two I’d say”
“Alright” says Larry “Let Larry and Jim get moving then”
“Yes let Larry and Jim”
(no first person plural pronouns either)
That would turn those effectively into pronouns. I guess you are supposed to just hum through the pronouns or leave a marked silence?
Those are gender pronouns with extra steps. \s
The tittle butchers the fact. They are not forbidden the use of pronouns, but to list their preferred ones (i.e, Dr Fuckwit (she/her).
When something is this stupid (university banning the preferred pronoums) , why not display it in all it’s stupid glory?
What’s really stupid is that I know a few women with traditionally male sounding names (Ryan, Alex, etc) who add their pronouns because they are sick of people assuming they’re male, but fuck them right?
I don’t have a problem with this.
You’re fired for using a pronoun in your comment.
I don’t get it. What good reason is there for the state to make a law like this?
Less divisiveness.
Everyone here is super impressed with your courage to post that here. Good job, buddy.
Did all the negative attention work to fill that void?
Because you think people shouldn’t be allowed to tell others what their gender is if they choose to?
Cool.
I don’t have a problem with useless wastes of oxygen publicly outing themselves.
Ditto. I read your comments.
Then I have a problem with you
Btw: “I” is a pronoun
“Hey we have some pretty serious and urgent problems that need sorting out, shall we get to work?”
“Nah, let’s fuck around with pronouns in emails.”
“We’re here to create problems, not solve them!”
Land of the free
Whoever told you that is your enemy
Francis Scott Key is your enemy?
Yes, he’s actually a lich, has a lair in the USS Constitution, that’s why they call it a “museum,” to lure unwary tourists for his unholy hungers.
Government small enough to fit in your mailbox
I wonder if that would be considered discrimination based on race and sex.
No, because it doesn’t impact the old, white cis-males. They’re just mad because their pronouns are “fucking” and “awful.”
Seriously. I am fucking awful? What did I do to you?
Are you mad about people putting pronouns and tribal affiliations in their email signatures? Because, yeah, that’s fucking awful.
I’m a (kinda) old cis white male, and I know that they’re not talking about me, because I’m not a bigot or racist.
My grandfather always told me, “if you think they’re talking about you, they are”, which is ominous, but true. We know when people are referring to groups that we consider ourselves members of. We are meticulous social creatures and pay attention to what people around us think of us.
Nobody reacts like that if they aren’t certain they’re being talked about.
I think it’s a good heuristic, but it’s not always true. It butts heads with the law of unintended consequences, and the law of big numbers, especially when you’re in a more global community.
I think you’re absolutely right to trust your gut, but it’s also important to verify those feelings with introspection and logic.
Yeah isn’t it funny how that works? Lol… I didn’t even register that comment as something that could ever offend or upset me. Despite fitting the descriptors… It’s almost like I know they weren’t referring to me.
That’s not what was posted. They said you are also fucking awful.
But if you are scared to even question being called that, it is your right.
We’re on social media. Sometimes people are a little carless with how they write, and are maybe a little more terse than they ought to be. Taking every post completely literally and not giving people the benefit of the doubt seems a bit silly. I take no umbrage with the statement, because I know who they’re talking about, and it’s not me. I have nothing to be scared of.
Do you not know how generalizations work or are you just that fucken brain damaged? If I say “Saxons are piss bathing dipshits” that doesnt mean I hate literally everyone from southern England at worst I just hate most of them. Learn what a generalization means or jump off a cliff I dont care what you do just stop being stupid.
To be fair, we as a society have been moving away from generalizations when it comes to things people can’t control. It’s a fine line to walk.
Sure but this is the internet if ya let generalizations bother you, well youll be real bothered for a real long time.
I’ll take the bear in case you were wondering too.
Care to explain what an awful choice that is?
I am sure you are fine, and have never supported bad legislation like this. I think that the biggest complaint I’ve seen for old cis white males is their ability to claim victimhood when they are at the top of the pyramid, and to make everything about themselves if you can believe it
Many cis white males can legitimately complain, but not as cis white males.
This was gold, but I feel like he had no idea what you were doing. Probably went, “yah! This guy gets it!”
I’d the glove fits…
Well, you were nice enough to pick an appropriate username. I like it when I block obvious wastes of oxygen.
They’re not even pretending it’s “just” about pronouns anymore. Now it’s just overt racism. Not surprised they went for the indigenous first.
Incidentally, there are over 70,000 indigenous Americans living in South Dakota. Considering the state has less than a million people, that’s not insignificant, so this is going to fuck over more than one or two people.
I mean, if those Indians would just go back to their own county, we wouldn’t have this problem.
- This comment was made possible by the Sequoia District School Board, and the Fighting Chiefs Football Team.
“I was told that I had 5 days to remove my tribal affiliation and pronouns,” Little said in an email to The Associated Press. “I believe the exact wording was that I had ‘5 days to correct the behavior.’
“Correct the behavior” just means setting the style to bold and increasing the font size, though.
We call it doin’ a John Hancock!
A “Little, John Hancock”, if you will.
The party of small government is now regulating your email signatures.
Noem says shut up and work or she’ll shoot your dog
🐕🔫👩👧
If you keep your dog on a reserve she can’t get to it.
This measure in a vacuum is not inherently bad, though it is authoritarian and, yes, contrary to a Republican’s (theoretical) advocacy to small government. Rwanda also removed legal distinctions between Tutsi and Hutu, but it was done after and because of the genocide.
What’s the point of comments like this? Truly… Are we in a vacuum? No? Then why even continue with whatever inane bullshit that came next?
Yeah dude perfect analogy. These people are doing this to promote solidarity and show that we’re all the same and shouldn’t be murdering each other. Totally comparable situation.
I get that using and promoting labels for your group promote solidarity. It can also cause division simply because when you call yourself “X”, it’s inevitable that people would form opinions and at worst prejudices on what is “not X”.
My point? Similar policies may result in different outcomes.
That sounds like a clear first amendment violation to me. It’s not like a political affiliation either, gender and ethnic background are core to identity
On the one hand, I see what you’re saying. It sounds much like something my savior Jesus would say.
On the other hand, something something fuck them queers and Injuns.
The first amendment doesnt apply to governmental communications.
Its the reason that things are able to be censored in public schools.
The reason things can be censored in schools is because of the “bong hits 4 Jesus” case that went to the Supreme Court who said the school taking it down didn’t violate their freedom of speeech because “it could reasonably seen as promoting drug use at a school event”.
Fucking stupid case because if I recall it was at a parade for the Olympic torch coming through their town (doesn’t sound like a school event to me) and was not on school property.
Just a kid who happened to go to school being harassed, outside of school, by a principal at a public parade in their town, for holding a silly sign.
So what is there a caveat to 1A that says, “Congress can make no law […] unless that speech or expression may reasonably be seen as promoting drug use”?
What a bullshit country run by octogenarian Christians who just won’t leave people the fuck alone.
Surely it should be a choice.
Republicans really aren’t fans of letting people make their own choices. You could even say that they aren’t pro-choice.
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Nazis love erasing peoples identity
A new day, another reason to hate conservatives and their authoritarianism.
Republicans sure love small government /s
