if someone’s car is blocking half the sidewalk, forcing every passerby to walk around…is that made any better when they hang a little sign on it saying “please mind the car”?
they’re still in the way. they could go all the way up their driveway, there’s plenty of room, they just choose to make their bad parking everyone else’s problem.
that’s what’s going on here:
they could correctly configure their community like everyone else, but they choose to make it everyone else’s problem when they show up in the all feed.
and the all feed is not owned by any one instance, which is why your analogy with the authorities doesn’t work. (the park analogy isn’t great anyway, the driveway/sidewalk one is better, i think)
their attitude of “just block it, if you don’t like it” is the very definition of making their community everybody’s else’s problem.
and i think that’s rude and inconsiderate.
and if you can’t see how it’s way worse to control how who can post is much worse than what gets posted:
it’s the difference between banning pride merch from your store, and banning queer people from your store.
both might be bad, but one is clearly much, MUCH worse!
I’m currently imagining you seeing a group of people talking on the sidewalk and you forcing your way into their space and insisting that you be a part of it because you saw their group existed.
sure, if you change absolutely everything about what i said and twisted it around into a completely different situation that has nothing to do with anything being discussed, you might have a point!
i never once said i want to be a part of it.
i never once said that their existence is a problem.
in fact i’ve said the opposite multiple times.
it’s their insistence on being public and then getting annoyed when someone wanders in on accident, assuming entirely reasonably, that is a public space, since, you know, it IS public, that i take issue with.
i don’t want to participate, and i respect their rules.
what i don’t want is posts either complaining about others missing the rules and posting by mistake, and what i also don’t want are posts like this one claiming that having communities which are clearly, by their own rules, private communities that are kept open to the public being somehow fine. which then necessitates idiotic spam like this very post.
you want a private corner for your group? fine, set it to private. that’s exactly what that is for.
if you want to reach lots of people, keep it open. and expect people to interpret said “open” sign to actually mean open, because that is what you willfully set it to.
okay, put it a different way:
if someone’s car is blocking half the sidewalk, forcing every passerby to walk around…is that made any better when they hang a little sign on it saying “please mind the car”?
they’re still in the way. they could go all the way up their driveway, there’s plenty of room, they just choose to make their bad parking everyone else’s problem.
that’s what’s going on here:
they could correctly configure their community like everyone else, but they choose to make it everyone else’s problem when they show up in the all feed.
and the all feed is not owned by any one instance, which is why your analogy with the authorities doesn’t work. (the park analogy isn’t great anyway, the driveway/sidewalk one is better, i think)
their attitude of “just block it, if you don’t like it” is the very definition of making their community everybody’s else’s problem.
and i think that’s rude and inconsiderate.
and if you can’t see how it’s way worse to control how who can post is much worse than what gets posted:
it’s the difference between banning pride merch from your store, and banning queer people from your store.
both might be bad, but one is clearly much, MUCH worse!
I’m currently imagining you seeing a group of people talking on the sidewalk and you forcing your way into their space and insisting that you be a part of it because you saw their group existed.
That is what you are describing.
sure, if you change absolutely everything about what i said and twisted it around into a completely different situation that has nothing to do with anything being discussed, you might have a point!
i never once said i want to be a part of it.
i never once said that their existence is a problem.
in fact i’ve said the opposite multiple times.
it’s their insistence on being public and then getting annoyed when someone wanders in on accident, assuming entirely reasonably, that is a public space, since, you know, it IS public, that i take issue with.
i don’t want to participate, and i respect their rules.
what i don’t want is posts either complaining about others missing the rules and posting by mistake, and what i also don’t want are posts like this one claiming that having communities which are clearly, by their own rules, private communities that are kept open to the public being somehow fine. which then necessitates idiotic spam like this very post.
you want a private corner for your group? fine, set it to private. that’s exactly what that is for.
if you want to reach lots of people, keep it open. and expect people to interpret said “open” sign to actually mean open, because that is what you willfully set it to.
wanting it both ways is some serious bs…