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Cake day: June 19th, 2023

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  • I don’t mean it that literally. I mean just observing swaths of people putting straws into drinks, putting ointments on scrapes, etc might make them extrapolate and try similar actions using what’s available to them.

    It’s not much of a reach for a primate seeing a human manipulate and dig with a shovel, and use that as inspiration to manipulate a bamboo shoot to scratch their own back.

    We homosapiens spent 180,000 ish years wandering around in the dirt like idiots before it occurred to some of us that we could grow food in one place, thus beginning the path to civilization. Even we need examples to extrapolate from.








  • Probably, in the same way Steamboat Mickey is.

    Just part of the whole valuing property, in this case intellectual, over actual labor and people that our species loves so fucking much.

    Imagine if IP from drugs to technology to fiction had a 5-10 year max window before other people could work with and expand on it. It would be a better world for most.

    Oh you only get to make income on that thing you came up with for SEVERAL YEARS OF YOUR LIFE before you need to contribute in other ways to keep making money, boo fucking hoo.








  • The fact that making significant sacrifices in abandoning many of the decadent comforts of this period at our only habitat’s irreparable (on a human timescale) damage expense is met with ridicule shows how determined we are to wreck this place.

    Imagine mass famines and frequent catastrophic weather events a couple generations from now. I’m guessing they’ll look at us being above living with our once kind, nurturing habitat with disdain and bewilderment when they’re steeped in the fruits of our lifestyles.

    Im not saying going back to the dark ages, im not advocating rejecting knowledge, only the rushing around and consumerism. There’s no more reasonable room for growth, growth is killing us, and robbing us of meaning.

    If we can’t live with this paradise, the idea of us spreading to hostile, unforgiving worlds within reach like Mars or Titan is a bad joke. Unlike the infinite mistakes we get to keep making here without instant death, one major mistake out there where we didn’t evolve, and poof everybody dead instantly thanks for playing space faring civilization. That isn’t a game humans can pull off. Maybe some small crew of exceptional people, but certainly not a colony of regular people.

    This is what we got. So yeah, maybe spending our time whittling stuff we need and moving at the speed of horse would be better for humanity long term than racing to grow our GDP into extinction.

    Whats the endgame of all this growth and “innovation” if it wasn’t killing us as it is? To have Google ad AI generated amalgums of our dead relatives transmitted directly into our brains to convince us to buy more crap?


  • It does, but if a catastrophic war, including one with nuclear weapons, brought us down to 2 billion from 9, those nukes wouldn’t even touch the current course of heavy industry of 9 billion that we recklessly became without a thought in the world about whether our only habitat could support it.

    Because shooting wars end, even if through attrition. Industry just keeps metastizing if you let it, and pretty lies like “but we planted trees! That evens out all the shit we’re pumping in the air and water!” are just pretty lies.

    If we cared about our species having a future, heavy industry would be scaled back to food/medicine, we could sow our own clothes, go back to horses, breed less, communaly build our own structures, and whittle our own shelf crap, and we could perhaps still provide a future to subsequent generations. We do not.


  • Neither does a cancer cell, or the cows/chickens/pigs we raise for slaughter, or all the marine life choking on our plastic, or the bees, on and on.

    Life usually doesn’t want to die, but since industrialization, we’ve decided to betray our place in Earth’s ecosystem, and haven’t stopped beating the shit out of it with the tools we’re clever enough to create but lack the impulse control/desire to wield responsibly.

    We had to kill a lot of Nazis to end world war II. They thought they were right, they didn’t want to die, but they had to be stopped because of the needless suffering they were causing. We just largely don’t see or choose to ignore the same reality on an even larger scale because humans not only solely care about and respect human life, we are highly selective even in that in irrational ways.

    I’m weird though, I try to take as objective a viewpoint as possible. Looking down from high orbit as an outsider at this lush world’s climate being artificially reverse terraformed to be more hostile towards virtually all life on it, something that would take millions of years to self-correct once the damage stopped, and seeing it all apparently being done by Earth’s apex predator with an apparent death wish pumping shit into the air while seemingly aware of its continuing effect on all life here including themselves, what would you think?

    Why are we more important than the approx 8.7 MILLION entire other species that also live here that lack the ability to resist us? Might has been proven time and again that it doesn’t equal right.


  • To be fair, we exterminate entire ecosystemss to build strip malls, then pat ourselves on the back for putting the ones we find cute or interesting to us in cages to be gawked at, and call it “saving” them, when the ones we have to breed in captivity for their continued existence are effectively extinct living ghosts for our amusement.

    I wish humanity was humanity’s only victim, but it couldn’t be further from the truth. From the perspective of virtually all other terran life, we are a plague.



  • Then we lie to them and tell them “it will get better” to get them off the ledge solely to try to squeeze a little more productivity out of them for the owners before they realize “but society cares about you” was just yet another layer of bullshit by a civilization that’s been warped and perverted to serve the singular goal of “make the wealth class wealthier” at literally all expense, even the very air we all breathe.

    A poor person begging for help will just get a 72 hour hold, some generic pills tossed at them to dull their mind, and even more debt for begging for help, where wealthy sociopath that exploits thousands including that poor person will get all the mental health assistance they desire up to and including self-actualization.