• rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    As usual, it’s the implementation that matters.

    Someone jumped at me for comparing EU and MAGA to Stalin’s and Hitler’s regimes, quote, “arguing in newspapers whose worker class has been liberated more”. Like they are not equal at all and all such.

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    9 days ago

    How long before that extends to PCs and non-Windows OSes are blocked? Also, add non-Chrome browsers to that as well (that includes Edge, Chromium, Brave, etc. as well as Firefox and its forks).

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    10 days ago

    What’s going on with Europe lately? You all really want GOOGLE of all mega corps in control of your identity?

    You’re going the opposite way, it should be your right to install an alternate OS on your phone. If anything they should be banning Google licensed Android.

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      10 days ago

      to hear it from any non-Americans on lemmy they’re better than America.

      looks like they’re just as susceptible to this fascist bullshit to me though…

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      10 days ago

      I just wanted the EU to fork lineageOS and provide it as an alternative in major chains.

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        I miss LineageOS so much, my last couple of phones haven’t had a build of it and my asshole banking apps wont work on it now.

        For my next phone i’m just not going to buy one unless it’s already supported and if I have to skip online banking I’ll do it.

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            I use cards, I don’t even have NFC on my phone, but it is nice to be able to check my bank account, lock/unlock the card, deposit checks, etc.

            I may be able to do most of that on the website, idk. Guess I’m probably going to find out :)

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      9 days ago

      We dont want it. VdL is one of the most corrupt people in policits and unfortunately has a lot of influence

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      10 days ago

      Its not the populace, our politicians just like in the US have gone rogue. People are voting for the nutters due to anti immigration propaganda and so increasingly getting far right. Its happening across the entire western world and its bad news for everyone.

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        9 days ago

        Except this isn’t even the right wing nutters doing it. These are mainstream politicians executing their power grabbing neolib agenda, with very little democratic oversight or public debate.

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      11 days ago

      Apparently this is illegal to implement as of right now, but it’s not helping the feeling of technological doomerism I get whenever I think about this whole identity verification situation.

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        10 days ago

        Sorry, do you have any sources for this? I was just thinking about getting a VPS in Switzerland today.

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          10 days ago

          Some other commenter mentioned that this is brought up in issues tracker in the repo. Sorry, I didn’t actually check for it.

          I’m not in the EU, I didn’t dig into it. FWIW I am also moving my own connections to exit from Switzerland sooner or later.

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      10 days ago

      'Cos it’s been turning (far-)right as well in the last few years.

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        10 days ago

        Which is why Europeans shouldn’t be too eager to laugh about the US being a fascist hellhole. I could happen there again if they’re not vigilant.

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          Dude, I keep telling my possibly AfD voting cousin we’re just a few years behind the US if things continue as they do. Our politicians aren’t better people, they’re just sneakier for now.

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          9 days ago

          No one is laughing… We’re horrified how the people who have been screaming “freedom” and being obnoxious about how much more free they are than anyone else in the entire universe, seem to love getting enslaved while being obnoxious about how cool it is to be enslaved.

          Europe has its problems. We’ve had them for generations, and right now they’re getting worse. But at least we have a culture of fighting back, something americans don’t.

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            But at least we have a culture of fighting back, something americans don’t.

            Talk is cheap. Prove it in the coming years. I really hope you’re right, because I want SOMEWHERE to not be either a coporate fascist hellholle or a collapsed country in the future…

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    10 days ago

    Well, I hope they’ll pay for my “EU age verification” phone, since my own won’t work. I’ll gladly buy one and not use it either.

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    11 days ago

    Yeah no. Requiring anything Google for something as basic as this violates the GDPR. If they go through with this, it’s one legal case until they have to revise it.

    Edit: German eID works on any Android btw., flawless actually. I sure hope I can use that for verification

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      violates the GDPR.

      I wouldn’t be too sure. Data protection mainly binds private actors. Any data processing demanded by law is legal. You’d really have to know the finer points of the law to judge if this is ok.

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        The GDPR also applies to public institutions as far as I’m aware - but most importantly the concern here is Google and data collected by Google. This data collection is in no way necessary to provide the age verification service. Most of it is not even related to it. The state legally cannot force you to agree to some corporations (i.e. Google’s) terms, even if we completely ignore the GDPR.

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      11 days ago

      Yes and the PC app you connect the Android app to also works on Linux. It’s even on flathub. Pretty nice, can’t complain.

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      11 days ago

      EID and equivalents are great for a lot of things, but do you want your porn site to know who you are? The new app is supposed to verify your age but not give out your PII. Not sure eID can do that?

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      Edit: German eID works on any Android btw., flawless actually. I sure hope I can use that for verification

      Same in Italy… I mean, I can pay taxes with that application but I cannot be verified for my age ? Seriously EU ?

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    11 days ago

    The US might have shot itself in the foot by electing Trump, but the EU is really going to shoot itself in the head if that continue in the same trajectory.

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      11 days ago

      TBH, as someone from the US it’s both horrifying and somewhat reassuring to know that we’re somehow not the worst right now.

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        10 days ago

        You should read more international news if you think either the EU or US is “the worst place”. Somalia for example has been in civil war since the 1980s.