Except that the UK is also obstructing proper avenues to get them too.
Transgender patients facing a years-long wait for NHS gender care are being handed a “death sentence”, says the mum of a trans woman who took her own life.
Data obtained by Newsnight and analysed by the BBC found it would take 10 years to clear the backlog of people waiting for first appointments in gender care.
Mind you that gender affirming treatment can be the difference between life and death for trans people. So, they can’t rely on public services, and they can’t take matters into their own hands. So, the idea here is “be rich or don’t be trans”?
Oh fuck off. That’s not a death sentence. That’s hyperbole if ever there was. It’s a disappointment. Life is full of them.
Suicide is prevalent outside of the LGBTQ community as well. I understand that it comes with a higher rate likely from bullying but I’m sure there are other groups that also have high suicide rates if we broke them down the same way.
The answer is be rich or don’t be anything. Lack of cancer treatment, lack of dental treatment, lack of preventative care. All of those are legitimate issues as well.
Yes, if you aren’t rich you will likely suffer from the things you want but can’t do.
Spoken as someone who haven’t ever bothered to talk to trans people or read about them a single day of your life. Consistently studies and accounts from transgender people indicate that gender transition diminishes the rates of suicide and suicidal ideation.
But it shows how little you know that the best you have to say is “sometimes life sucks for other people too”. Guess what, this isn’t about you. No idea why you are even so invested in the risks and needs related to something that has nothing to do with you. Because clearly it isn’t out of care for other people.
Yeah and so does eating healthier, getting more money, better health, access to transportation, etc… the list of things that help stop suicide is whatever people are wanting to feel better about their life and I get that there is a community that wants these things.
I just can’t believe it’s at a point of praising illegal sales of drugs.
And don’t pretend you know me. You don’t. Cause you are wrong about a lot of what you think about me and it’s easier to assume the person I am than accept that you are just making shit up to feel better about your side.
I’m against the narcissistic vibe of it’s good as long as you get what you specifically want. I want rules and a helpful society not people arguing that them doing things by their own vested interest are what’s best. I care because I have to live with the rest of you as much as you have to live with me and everyone else. I’m sorry you feel that’s unfair and that currently it is unfair in how treatment is accessible but life is very very unfair.
You are right, I don’t know you. But if you are so good-hearted deep inside, why would you call trans people narcissistic for trying to address the unfairness of life by their own means?
Yet for all you say of me not knowing you, you don’t seem to be trying to understand anyone else either. All you have to show are the shallowest platitudes you can think of.
You are right, life is unfair. Which is exactly why you can’t count on governments providing what you need, why people might need to figure it out on their own. In light of that, is it really so shocking that people may resort to illegal means? Yet even that is being taken away.
You don’t seem to have a drop of sympathy for that, you don’t know or care about what severe gender dysphoria may be like, you talk of it as if it was merely denying them a luxury. No, this is not the sort of thing that may be alleviated treated by “eating healthier” or “access to transportation”.
Frankly, all this pearl-clutching about illegality and regulation sounds like something from someone who believes society is far more ideal than it really is. Or is your point just “get fucked when you are told to”? Because that’s the only way I can see conciliating the inherent unfairness of life with strict adherence to the rules.
So it has to be a death sentence before anything should be done about it?
Yes, other groups and communities might have similar suicide rates and life is hard for them too, but this isn’t about them? So what is their relevance in this argument exactly? They should be helped too not seemingly pitted against the LGBTQ community like this is a them or us thing.
Agree, those other issues are legitimate as well, and access to those should be improved. But that can be accomplished along with allowing better access to gender affirming medication.
Except that the UK is also obstructing proper avenues to get them too.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68602939
Mind you that gender affirming treatment can be the difference between life and death for trans people. So, they can’t rely on public services, and they can’t take matters into their own hands. So, the idea here is “be rich or don’t be trans”?
Oh fuck off. That’s not a death sentence. That’s hyperbole if ever there was. It’s a disappointment. Life is full of them.
Suicide is prevalent outside of the LGBTQ community as well. I understand that it comes with a higher rate likely from bullying but I’m sure there are other groups that also have high suicide rates if we broke them down the same way.
The answer is be rich or don’t be anything. Lack of cancer treatment, lack of dental treatment, lack of preventative care. All of those are legitimate issues as well.
Yes, if you aren’t rich you will likely suffer from the things you want but can’t do.
Spoken as someone who haven’t ever bothered to talk to trans people or read about them a single day of your life. Consistently studies and accounts from transgender people indicate that gender transition diminishes the rates of suicide and suicidal ideation.
But it shows how little you know that the best you have to say is “sometimes life sucks for other people too”. Guess what, this isn’t about you. No idea why you are even so invested in the risks and needs related to something that has nothing to do with you. Because clearly it isn’t out of care for other people.
Yeah and so does eating healthier, getting more money, better health, access to transportation, etc… the list of things that help stop suicide is whatever people are wanting to feel better about their life and I get that there is a community that wants these things.
I just can’t believe it’s at a point of praising illegal sales of drugs.
And don’t pretend you know me. You don’t. Cause you are wrong about a lot of what you think about me and it’s easier to assume the person I am than accept that you are just making shit up to feel better about your side.
I’m against the narcissistic vibe of it’s good as long as you get what you specifically want. I want rules and a helpful society not people arguing that them doing things by their own vested interest are what’s best. I care because I have to live with the rest of you as much as you have to live with me and everyone else. I’m sorry you feel that’s unfair and that currently it is unfair in how treatment is accessible but life is very very unfair.
Yikes. I’m gonna order some weed and estrogen over the internet, inject them both while thinking of how caustic your brain is.
Wow I get to live in your brain instead of just you moving on with your life? I hope the rent is cheap I can’t afford more.
You are right, I don’t know you. But if you are so good-hearted deep inside, why would you call trans people narcissistic for trying to address the unfairness of life by their own means?
Yet for all you say of me not knowing you, you don’t seem to be trying to understand anyone else either. All you have to show are the shallowest platitudes you can think of.
You are right, life is unfair. Which is exactly why you can’t count on governments providing what you need, why people might need to figure it out on their own. In light of that, is it really so shocking that people may resort to illegal means? Yet even that is being taken away.
You don’t seem to have a drop of sympathy for that, you don’t know or care about what severe gender dysphoria may be like, you talk of it as if it was merely denying them a luxury. No, this is not the sort of thing that may be alleviated treated by “eating healthier” or “access to transportation”.
Frankly, all this pearl-clutching about illegality and regulation sounds like something from someone who believes society is far more ideal than it really is. Or is your point just “get fucked when you are told to”? Because that’s the only way I can see conciliating the inherent unfairness of life with strict adherence to the rules.
So it has to be a death sentence before anything should be done about it?
Yes, other groups and communities might have similar suicide rates and life is hard for them too, but this isn’t about them? So what is their relevance in this argument exactly? They should be helped too not seemingly pitted against the LGBTQ community like this is a them or us thing.
Agree, those other issues are legitimate as well, and access to those should be improved. But that can be accomplished along with allowing better access to gender affirming medication.
Open access on the Internet to anyone at random does not equal productive or helpful societal care is my point.
It’s a drug lord selling their stock.
But because it confirms a group that wants easier access it becomes an argument about morals in a way that it shouldn’t be is exactly my point.