• Madlaine@feddit.de
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    6 months ago

    Yes, but it’s a bit hard to get; even in countries that try to improve trans-care rather than reduce it.

    There are just so many therapists; the waiting lists are sometimes simply closed because they stretch years.

    For many people, these hormones mean the difference between a livable life and extreme dysphoria, depression and suicidality.

    If they could get them on the regular way, they would. But the regular way is often full of problems. So some people have to fall back to just do it themself.

    I even heard of doctors who do some medical checks under the counter to ensure everything is done as safe as possible (but aren’t able to prescribe hormones themself without prior psychotherapeutical indication)

    So; your point would be valid in theory, but unfortunately for many trans-people, it’s the only way to get their possibly life-saving medication.

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      6 months ago

      Yes, but it’s a bit hard to get;

      Then that’s the problem to tackle. Buying black market drugs is not a reliable solution.

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        6 months ago

        It’s a relief valve though. As someone who has suffered from unavailable care, black market drugs probably saved my life. I’m not terribly against adults being able to make such decisions on their own judgment.

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        6 months ago

        I don’t disagree with the point that it shouldn’t need to be this way.

        But it is what it is; and it’s live saving medication that has to come from somewhere.

        People are fighting to tackle the problem officially; but they also have to somehow live in the meantime.

        Almost all trans people would prefer a prescription and medical supervision above having to pay themself and guesstimate the doses without proper bloodwork. But some just don’t have any alternatives.

        And to be clear: I will always recommend people to try the official way first. local transpersons that asked me for advice all got a “I can help you get therapy; I can help you to skip therapy and go the indication route; I can reluctantly help you skip indication and go the informed-consent-route without psychotherapists but still medical supervision, even tho I really discourage that unless your transidentity is obvious since many years; but I will not help you to get DIY (without medical supervision) unless you tried the official approaches, sorry”.

        But for some people, there is no other option than DIY. Getting a place for therapy can be really hard, and some countries have no alternative routes to get a prescription with medical supervision without going through years of therapy first.

        (Btw, I don’t know how the laws are in the UK. I’m from germany. But the problem is the same everywhere. I got lucky to be able to get a prescription, tho; but I know a few people that weren’t)

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        6 months ago

        well obviously people who buy black market drugs don’t have a better solution available. use some critical thinking, it won’t hurt you

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          6 months ago

          Well obviously people using black market drugs are taking a huge health risk 'cos, well, it’s a black market… very unreliable due to its very nature. Use some critical thinking, it won’t hurt you.

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          How so? I’m assuming there’s a regulatory body that determines what’s legal and what’s not, and what requires prescription. That this body doesn’t seem to be working well/fast enough seems to be the main issue.