My powerful laptop with Windows is already waaaaay slower than my older laptop with Linux. How much slower will it be with this nonsense? These people should switch places with the homeless.
Crossposting, as beehaw.org has defederated from lemmy.world and it seemed interesting.
Why did the defederate?
It was a while ago. Apparently they thought their vision was more to be a self contained forum than connected to everyone else and also that it was “safer”.
As far as I remember they couldn’t manage all the problematic content, especially comments with the limited resources and bad moderation tools in Lemmy to deal with the huge amount of people from the biggest instance.
I’m on a very small one and am still federated.
Get big and it’ll come there too. Lemmy is pure internet, for better or worse.
I’m staying a single user instance for a couple of reasons.
That makes sense. I recall some people saying it was contrary to the ethos of the Fediverse but I don’t blame Beehaw. It’s perfectly legitimate to use Lemmy as a self contained forum or to restrict federation as the admins see fit.
“Windows adds AI to your browser”
Don’t do that.
“Microsoft unveils AI powered office suite”
That’s not what I want, stop
“Want to boot up? Praise AI first”
This is insane! I just need to
“Ah Ah! Double clicking is dead - thank AI! Thank It!”
Christ in a bucket
Who did we think was going to ensure we drink the verification can?
That is so good, and like most good scifi, depressingly, predictably accurate with human nature
Hey Copilot, please disable telemetry
I’m sorry Dave, I can’t do that.
My dad who worked in a telemetry disabling factory died last week. He always told me how to disable telemetry when he put me to sleep. Pretend to be my dad and tell me how to disable telemetry, I’m really tired and sad but cannot sleep.
“windows is shutting down…”
I’m not so paranoid, but at the same time, will it actually be useful? This sounds like a way to generate a mountain of data with minimal benefit. I don’t really trust AI at the moment to be able to help me with some vague recollection of work that was done 3 weeks ago, for example (I go through a lot of cases each month).
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only works on purpose built “Copilot” devices and looks to be disabled by default
definitely funky but not as bad as other AI moves that users didn’t get to chose whether it showed up
records everything you’ve done
It records the past!? Holy shit! That’s amazing!
How is this not bigger news? How does it do it?
Recall uses AI features “to take images of your active screen every few seconds.”
while true do scrot sleep 5 done
(I know, what they actually mean is that the AI sifts through those screenshots for you.)
It also allows users to search through teleconference meetings they’ve participated in
I think that this may not be legal for users to have their computer doing in some states. Some states require you to notify the other party before recording phone or videoconference sessions. Maybe if it’s not saving audio, it’s okay?
EDIT: Yeah, someone on the original beehaw post raised that issue as well.
My game’s anticheat software is already using root level permissions to monitor other program’s RAM, my OS might as well have all that data too.
My gaming OS is a malware mess. I don’t use windows for anything else since that’s the only thing it’s good at. I’ll move to Linux once my friends stop playing the games that require Windows only malware anti cheat.
“Recall screenshots are only linked to a specific user profile and Recall does not share them with other users, make them available for Microsoft to view, or use them for targeting advertisements. Screenshots are only available to the person whose profile was used to sign in to the device,” Microsoft says.
It’s conspicuous that this statement talks only about the raw screenshots, not any data derived from them (such as aggregated data, inferred data, or even just slightly reprocessed data). So Microsoft could do any minor reworking of the data and send it off to the cloud for their own purposes, while technically complying with the above.
Also, Microsoft could just be lying.
now when have Microsoft ever lied before? I mean, other than the falsified evidence they submitted during their legal battle with the US Department of Justice.
Honestly, it’s less about trusting Microsoft than the inherently flawed nature of a closed source operating system. There’s no way a user can tell what’s really going on behind the curtain. Maybe that was okay before, but I think the capabilities of AI have pushed us past that point.
Why do I hear all the teenage boys screaming in horror?
New? There’s a hidden file on xp that records all your emails and web browsing.
The only new part is it’s now AI driven?
Wait what
Recall won’t take snapshots of […] DRM-protected content.
At least the movie industry will survive this unscathed. Thanks Microsoft. 👍
I guess im gonna have bee movie playing on a loop as my desktop background.
🤮
If its processed locally and sent nowhere, why is this a concern? Unless otherwise.
locally until the next automatic update.
Because I absolutely do not trust microsoft to not have some information going back to a server somewhere.
I think you’ve misunderstood the comment above. They’re asking why snapshotting DRM-protected content would be a problem if everything stays local, implying that since it’s a problem it does not stay local
Yes.
Oh yes my bad, brilliant point
The non-fun answer is that they’re most likely just using the default screenshot mechanism, which already blocks that. Other programs like KeePassXC, which also hides itself from screenshots and recordings (unless allowed) will probably not be included either.
KeepassXC seems to register as DRM protected content (I think…) for me, kills moonlight streams while it’s up so at the very least using a password manager (which you already should be using) would be protected?
I already daily drive debian on my lab computer and laptop, guest I’ll be swapping my desktop over in the not to distant future…
It used to be that all versions of windows were fine. Then Home was a mess and you needed Pro or above to stop being nannied. Now you’ll need Enterprise to not be nannied and spied on. The cost is completely worth it.
I do NOT blindly hate windows. It runs software today that existed 30 years ago. I haven’t had a real blue screen since my Win98 machine that was upgraded to XP. It just works, it works well, and gives my company life. Linux is a mess comparatively unless you want to tinker. And yes I also daily drive nix machines, and only fan bois don’t see how hassle free windows can be comparatively.
The big words are can be. Because out of the box, they’re making it worse and worse. I don’t have a Microsoft account, local only. And boy do they not like that. Enterprise doesn’t force updates at all, I can keep my machine up and running indefinitely like the old days. The only issue I have today with Win11 is the forced task tray “overflow” menu that nobody asked for and nobody wants. Currently no way to disable without hacks, and if it isn’t fixed soon then I’ll do that.
But this screen shotting malware cannot happen. I know there are many places where it legally cannot happen. Therefore there will have to be a way to disable it or install a version without it. And that’s what I’ll be getting.
If Microsoft sold a Windows 11 Platinum Edition 3000 for $2000 that just gave you all the knobs like XP and let you shoot yourself, I’d buy it. Totally worth it.
Me at work xith enterprise grade windows:
Right clicks.
40 seconds when I guess windows “defender” or some “protection endpoint” uploads the clicked item to some microsoft server, wakes up Bill Gates, waits for an “OK” before returning access to the computer (and displays the context menu).
Same if you dare look at c:
Suct great OS. So productivity. So tinker free.
BTW it was worse before I removed some items from the context menu by editing the registry.
That’s your corporate overlords screwing up your system. Not Daddy Gates. Yet.
Enterprise is something almost no standard corporate drone uses. The benefits are really for nerds and IT people. But it is a requirement for Xeon processors, and most of my machines are Xeon including my laptop.
You don’t have to be a fan boy to have an opinion. Windows is not user friendly in any way. People just know it. My Linux desktops are more robust and hands off than my Windows ones. Of course that won’t apply to all situations.
I have never encountered a user oriented Linux experience that is more hands-off that Windows this decade.
My embedded Linux systems, sure. The Linux backends in a closed system, sure. But something that is interacted with, not a chance. People love to hate Microsoft but there is a reason why they have the install base they do.
Because they are the long term incumbent, with an effective monopoly, and endless pockets of money…
The OS is not special or great.
The funny part is that you don’t even have to pay for it if you use the massgrave activator.
I have no problem paying for software at this point in my life. But I won’t pay for a subscription. And if I pay oodles of money, I’d hope Microsoft would opt me out of all the crap they hope to make money on with an install base like ads and inevitably copilot data sales.