• Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
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    This timid cowardice emboldens these creatures to commit genocide knowing that the West is too scared to confront them for fear of being labelled anti Semitic

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    Yeah that’s fucked. If you are going to let people say “No Christians” or “No Muslims” then “No Zionists” ought to be allowed.

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        My autistic ass is going to be nitpicky as well. Zionism deals directly with people who identify with a religion and where they ought to live. I mean it also vaguely alludes to aspects of jewish ethnicity’s since zionism likely also is concerned with athiest but ethnically jewish people unless I am mistaken. There is a lot wrapped up in it.

        Also religions have specific outcomes they desire as well.

        Regardless, my point people should be allowed to be anti-zionist on Grindr if they can be anti-other-vaguely-equivalent-things.

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          Just to confirm for you (from an atheist jew) yes zionism is also concerned with atheist jews. Also, yeah people should absolutely be allowed to say no zionists, I certainly wouldn’t want to date someone who doesn’t care about Palestinians.

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            TBH, I don’t know why a zionist would want to date someone who’d even put “no zionists” in their profile in the first place if anything this is just encouraging everyone to waste their time.

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              A lot of young right wingers are complaining that people knowing their political stances makes it hard to date. They’re hoping to trick people into dating them, effectively.

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                I don’t see how this would matter though. In a dating app, someone who refuses to date zionists will notice if pro-zionism is on their profile and not match with them or even block them. If there is no mentioned zionism on the rightwinger’s profile and the rightwinger is trying to trick people into dating them whether the anti-zionist is able to post “No Zionists” on their profile is immaterial, the rightwinger will try to match with them regardless.

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                  If a large portion of people are putting it in their profiles, NOT putting it can make you stand out?

                  If no one can, they won’t stand out. Sure they could lie, but now they don’t have to

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              That’s not the reason for it. They want to ensure it isn’t normalized. If you start seeing a lot of people openly saying they’re anti-zionist, people who seem reasonable and generally agree with you, then you may consider that the propoganda you’ve been fed saying it’s wrong inst accurate.

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        Every single religion has extremists. Make a religion, you just made reliigious extremists. Support a religion, you support the same religion as religious extremists are supporting.

        Religions support politics, and politicians, . They have to do that to achieve theocracy.

        Every single religion tries to pull this bullshit. christians? Yep. muslims? Yep. jewish? Yep. hindu? Yep. It never ends. Keep religion very far away from everything, always. It ruins everything it touches.

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          zionism is not a religion though. it is a terrorist organization. can grindr allow you to say “no nazis”?

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          No, no, antisemitism isn’t about hating jews its about hating zionist. The military industrial complex tells me so. /sarcasm/

          Though thats how alot of people treat it…

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            Just fyi, the slash in /s or /sarcasm isn’t some weird bracket, it’s meant as an XML style closing tag, meaning “end of sarcasm”. In full it would look as follows:

            <sarcasm>Things are going great!</sarcasm>
            

            But people drop the opening tag and the <> for convenience.

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              No, the / has nothing to do with xml. It’s a fake IRC command.

              They were all in the style of /commandname.

              You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.

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                You know, people tend to use sarcasm more in chats than in XML documents.

                <message tone=“annoyed” mood=“indignant”>Speak for yourself</message><snap />

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                I’m aware of slash commands. If it’s a /sarcasm command, why would it be at the end of the statement?
                What’s your source for this? I’m pretty sure “/s” means “end of sarcasm”, borrowed from XML/HTML.

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                I don’t remember ever seeing /s on IRC.
                It’s always meant </sarcasm> to me.

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          I get no Jews as in people of Jewish faith but no Jews as in the ethnicity would get iffy fast. No blacks or no whites or no mulattoes or whatever can be a bit oof even though everyone has their preference

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      More importantly, what’s a Zionist doing on Grindr? Nethaniadolf doesn’t seem the type to be very rainbow friendly.

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        Well, not every zionist likes Netanyaho. In fact I think even among them the majority dislike him because basically most of almost every group dislikes Netanyaho ATM. Hes only still in power because of political leverage, fear, etc. Sort of a “Hes a evil psychopath but what if we get instability in this turbulent war time by removing him?”

        Also I’ve 100% encountered zionist LGBT people on dating apps. They’ve been either Jewish or Centrist Libs.

        Or because of “poor relations” between Islam and LGBT… Which is mostly just any religion and LGBT. Seeing zionism as a lesser evil to Islamic fundamentalism that they associate with Palestinian Nationalism.

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    I feel like they actually could make their own app with blackjack and hookers.

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      Maybe throw “no religious nationalists” in for good measure. State religions don’t have the best track record in the history books.

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    Corporations embrace fascism as shallowly as they did DEIA and queer acceptance, but all it takes is a couple of inches of depth to drown if you fall down and become vulnerable… which is something the businessmen and oligarchs, distracted by the incredible gains in wealth they are accruing from the firesale of the foundations of society torn down by fascists, only perceive as a slight annoyance, an ankles deep rising of water, oh no my fancy leather dress shoes are ruined!

    Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.

    Jews or Israelis make a strange argument when they call someone from the US like me anti-semitic for being against Israel’s actions. This is a circus people who grew up in the post 9/11 US know intimately, Israel is the modern post cold war colonialism of the US echoed into a different context.

    Just because I do not intimately understand the full vibrant depth of history that forms the context that the countless weapon systems, bombs and associated training FROM MY COUNTRY are used to erase doesn’t mean I do not understand the process of erasure and have an indisputable stake in maintaining my moral integrity given the moral weight falls directly on my country for providing the machinery for erasure.

    Scholars writing about this time will draw a direct throughline from US colonialism and genocide to the genocide of Palestinians, which isn’t to say Israel does not also uniquely bear a terrible weight here that will last far longer than any of our lives.

    I am against anti-semitism, I despise it. So is every anti-Zionist worth their salt and if I know one thing about the activists who show up to champion these causes it is that they will not tolerate people who violate basic human decency no matter if they are on their team or not… that is PRECISELY why they showed up to the protest in the first place. Focus on them as your enemy at your peril for the rightwing is turning very clearly on judaism as a scapegoat even as we speak…

    “It seems pretty explicitly pro-colonization and protecting of the ideology that genocide and ethnic cleansing are okay for certain groups to perform as long as it upholds your own personal or capitalistic interests,” Green, a Grindr user I spoke to who also saw this error message, told me. “It’s gross. And to put energy towards protecting a blatantly bigoted ideology and not put the same energy towards protecting minority groups is pathetic. So fuck Grindr and its inability to intersect queer oppression with the oppression of other groups.”

    Don’t mistake these words for arguing this is too complicated to understand, that we must all learn even more divisions and categories… no this is the opposite. Our voices call for a simplicity of kindness, which recognizes the foundational humanity of all before any further judgement, a virtue honored by all the worlds major religions for obvious reasons.

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      Zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.

      Judging by the rest of your comment, I think you meant anti-zionism is not anti-semitism.

      With that said, I agree wholeheartedly.

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        Personally I’ve always found it quite antisemitic to prescribe all people of the Jewish faith the opinions of the state of Israel, and in turn hold them accountable for the states actions.

        When people say anti Zionism is equivalent antisemitism that’s what they are doing, and in turn removing all agency from people of the Jewish faith.

        I have yet to ask people who make the argument about this though, but I assume it’d be a shitstorm.

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          For sure. Zionism itself is very anti-Semitic for that reason.

          I was correcting a typo in the post above.

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            I don’t agree that zionism is anti-semitic per se, because it’s possible to be a zionist without implying all jews are zionists.

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            Sorry, it wasn’t meant to be directed at you as if you held the opinion. I can see how it could be read like that.

            It was meant as more of an apropos to your comment.

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    Not difficult to realize why when you realize who owns it along with many of the other dating apps.

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    I bet they are fine if you say you support “settlers” though.

    That term pisses me off so much. What human scum those people must be