• SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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      You’re strawmanning it. Protesting to stop bombing civilians in Gaza is not the same as supporting Hamas.

      Unless by “protest in favor of a mass murdering genocidal terrorist organization” you mean the pro-IDF rallies right?

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        During all of this ask yourself one thing: What could Hamas do to stop the violence?

        Then protest against Hamas for bombing civilians. Current estimates are that they kill more civilians than the Israeli army and the total number of dead civilians is laughable low in light of the overall size of the operation.

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        6 months ago

        During all of this ask yourself one thing: What could Hamas do to stop the violence?

        But don’t forget about the motorcycles. They do too.

        Also, protests are only legal if announced and held within the announced and accepted area.

        You can not just go somewhere without a permission and occupy other peoples property.

        The dudes could protest 365 days a year on roads where they have permission.

        They don’t have permission and refuse to cooperate?

        Sack them. Fine them. Teach them.

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          What could Hamas do to stop the violence?

          At the moment, they’re desperately negotiating for a ceasefire in Egypt. But without an Israeli government willing to accept an offer, there’s nothing they can do because they’re not the ones with the tanks and the bombers.

          You can not just go somewhere without a permission and occupy other peoples property.

          You absolutely can and people routinely do.

          The dudes could protest 365 days a year on roads where they have permission.

          Who grants permission to access public property?

          Sack them. Fine them. Teach them.

          What?

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            6 months ago

            Sure Hamas begs for a cease fire because Israel is tearing them a structurally superfluous new a-hole. They desperatelly need to restructure to fight harder.

            Now ask yourself, what could Hamas do to stop the violence?

            1. Release all hostages
            2. Surrender and do no longer plan to genozide Israel.

            Then by international Law Israel has to stop fighting. But not one second earlier. International Law is sure about that. Then you have immediately peace. It is really so easy.

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              Sure Hamas begs for a cease fire because Israel is tearing them a structurally superfluous new a-hole.

              They’re butchering civilians, flattening hospitals, and sending IDF ground troops in to do TikTok dances in rooms full of women’s lingerie while blood is still visible on the walls.

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            6 months ago
            You can not just go somewhere without a permission and occupy other peoples property.
            

            You absolutely can and people routinely do.

            And then you are regularly arrested for trespassing and damage to property.

            On the other hand, you can simply register the demonstration with the city council and then demonstrate in the designated area as often and as long as you want.

            Shame on you if you tell people to disregard the law, ending them up in jail.

            Chose your poison.

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              And then you are regularly arrested for trespassing and damage to property.

              Setting aside the abysmal crime clearance rate for breaking-and-entering, you’re only subject to arrest if you’re on the wrong side of the police. This leads to a peculiar situation in which law enforcement can and do break into people’s property, ransack it, and occasionally kill the inhabitants, without consequence. What’s more, civilians allied with the police can raid property and engage in assault without consequence, because a given officer/DA tacitly approves of the offense.

              Shame on you if you tell people to disregard the law

              When might makes right, there is no law to disregard.