I’m talking about those youtube videos.
Feels like lowkey copaganda to me.
Those videos have actually shown me how often police investigations are an absolute clown show actually
This isn’t surprising at all, it seems like a type of selection bias. Most people prefer to see the conclusion of a story, so crime stories where the criminals are caught make better stories. You know what else makes for a better story? Having a cop that was involved give a firsthand account. Bad bumbling cops naturally don’t make it onto these kinds of shows.
My partner and I quit watching these after I pointed out that they usually cover small town murders, and almost every time the crime is eventually solved, it’s because the local police suck it up and finally ask for help from the state or FBI who actually know what they’re doing. Similarly, the videos of cold cases that aren’t yet solved rarely mention any involvement of more competent higher levels of police in the investigation.
Yeah.
If they are actually doing documentary work, they have to suck up to the cops so that the cops will cooperate with them. If they’re too critical, they’ll stop getting help.
If they’re just rehashing Wikipedia or doing reaction content then they’re adding nothing anyway
People like to feel that there is justice and that bad guys get caught. Serial killers and the source of info (mostly police departments) makes for low hanging fruit. To get less biased info would take more work. It is possibly different outside the US.
I was overhearing a crime video my grandma was watching and holy shit the narrator could not be verbally sucking cop dick harder
There has been a fair amount of analysis of the social role of ‘true crime’ as a genre. To boil it way, way down, it’s about creating a representation of human evil to let people feel essentially righteous. It is peak centrism, uplifting the status quo by placing it as opposition to the unquestionedly heinous, and with it, current structures, like cops as law enforcement.
im just not a fan of the true crime industry. it makes me feel ill
We sometimes watch stuff like this and I will point out when they are coming out with something bullshit.
Like a police officer saying how dangerous escooters are because someone was killed a few months ago by one. Cars kill multiple people a day.
That’s great, but the issue is promotion of this type of media and its bias which favors the police. Your personal experience is encouraging, but does not refute the issue as a whole
There’s nothing in this person’s comment that sounds like they’re trying to refute anything.
There’s a lot more cars around than Escooters though.
Fatalities per passenger mile is also lower
For scooters or cars?
So do the fictional detective shows that are constantly popular for decades now. Propaganda.
Me and partner watch a lot of drama series…crime/detective/cop stuff is so dominant it’s unreal.
notice how the cops aren’t even happy or good in their own propaganda 🤣
But I love my British and Scandinavian detective series. They’re great!
It’s Scottish, but have you watched Dept. Q? Good shit.
I’m so tired of people opposing a “pro-cop” bias. You can be against corruption in police departments without being pro-criminal. Police are the people we should be supporting, because they enact the force of law, which is what keeps society stable. That there is corruption among the police just means we need to attack that problem directly, not get rid of police. Those who want to get rid of police are anarchist fuckwits who want crime lords to rule society, and they should be dealt with the same way we deal with criminals.
Police don’t keep society stable. Police punitively punish people for crimes. By a large margin those crimes are against property. Police are actually really bad about punishing people for crimes against other people. Police do not prevent crime.
People keep society stable. Support people (full stop, no qualifiers) and you are supporting society. A government designed to support people,
evenespecially when they have failed, gotten sick, gotten injured, gotten addicted, gotten evicted, etc. is what keeps society stable. Police are a cancerous growth on those government systems funneling funds away from real productive support to futile punitive punishment, the last bastion of government approved slavery. Police are evidence of an ultimately failing society eating itself.You’re an idealistic moron. Find me a society that exists on a scale like a modern nation that doesn’t have police. Your fantastical communism exists on a kibbutz and nowhere else.
Those who want to get rid of police are anarchist fuckwits who want crime lords to rule society, and they should be dealt with the same way we deal with criminals.
Oh yeah, that makes total sense, if someone doesn’t agree with you they’re a criminal. /s
The full expression is a few bad apples spoil the bunch. Police are thoroughly corrupt in the United States and it could be argued with plenty of corroborating evidence that it is a feature and not a bug.
Your little piggies stood by en masse in Uvalde while eight year olds were slaughtered. But you better believe they’ll be cashing their overtime checks after assisting the ICE raids to help haul off undocumented Grandmas.
That the stable society you love that they help uphold?
ACAB
Even if 100% of the police officers in the country need to be replaced, we still need police. Are you truly debating this?
Where you getting them from? The type of people that want to be police in this country are largely the fucking problem with this country.
And besides, I can’t even debate this with you, right? Because it makes me deserving of being treated like a criminal?
Is it a thought crime to think that people who literally have no mandate to protect the public, constantly murder dogs and people, suck up the majority of most city budgets, and are generally cowards might be doing more harm than good?
You referring me to be sent to El Salvador? Oh whoops, you said treated like a criminal, not treated like a person applying for asylum. I guess if we’re going to treat me like a criminal in this country, I should be elected president.
You’re being over-emotional. Stop.
I can accept that there are systemic problems either the police in this country. Can you accept that private police organizations which will most likely be run by the mafia and cartels would be worse? Regardless of what you want to call it, every democratically elected government needs a force to enforce its laws. They’re typically called police. Yes, our police force needs reforms, but we still need police.
Now, are we in agreement or am I dealing with a moron not worth my time?
why do you think not being “pro-cop” makes you pro-criminal?
If you’re simply against the establishment of having police, you’re by default “pro-criminal.”
Go back to reddit
Go fuck yourself.
Go lick some fucking cop boots, pig lover.
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You’re a moron. Not the least for using a Star Wars reference that’s acknowledged to be hypocritical, but because you oppose the institution of police, offer nothing to replace it with. What a buffoon. Who do you think will take control without police? Someone will fill the power vacuum. And guess what: it will be organized criminals. Say what you like about governments being little better, at least they’re established by some form of democracy. You think society will be made better by demolishing the established rule of law? You’re a dumb, inexperienced, naive piece of trash, and the world would be better without you.
Why?
Because without police, criminals flourish. Because with police that are established and controlled by a democratically elected government, you get police who are established and controlled by gangs and cartels.
“Without Police, Criminals Flourish”
We have police now, and criminals flourish.
Hell, half the criminals are the police.
how about you pop that thin blue cock out of your mouth and stop with the copaganda apologism.
Wait. You mean to tell me there’s corruption in the corruption factory??
Sooo…Do you prefer the flavor of brown polish, or black?
This is the Internet, get the fuck out of here with a practical and realistic opinion.
But I like shitting on the sidewalk. 😉
If you like true crime and also someone not afraid to call out when the cops fuck up, I recommend Bailey Sarian. Love her “Honey let me TELL YOU” vibe, but that’ll be a turn off for some people so YMMV.
I don’t recall cops coming up much in Barely Sociable but he’s great too though he hasn’t posted in a while, and his stuff is less true crime and more mysterious stuff in general.
Netflix had a few really good ones that showed how the cops lied or bungled things.
JCS criminal psychology is 100% copaganda. It presents cop interrogation techniques as a kind of science, as if the Reid technique wasn’t all about deliberately misunderstanding body language and coercing innocent people to confess.
Skip Intro has a good series on Copaganda. Talks about TV shows/fiction, but a lot of the messaging is the same.
Cops exist to protect property, not you.
If you want a good non-copaganda documentary though, Errol Morris’s The Thin Blue Line is a worthwhile classic.
huh interesting, I always took the vibe of JCS to be “these are the dirty tricks they pull, shut the fuck up and get a lawyer because you won’t win in an interrogation room”
maybe that’s me projecting into it though idk
There’s a YT video by Fern that goes over a story about some german cops burning a drunken black man alive and covering it up. Non-copaganda crime documentaries exist, although they’re rare. I love crime media, but I always take it with a grain of salt since the genre is generally pretty biased.
