Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn’t want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.

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    Because Democratic leadership is aware that Republicans aren’t their actual enemies, and a ton of them are also on the list.

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      The democrats are aware that their names are on the list and they’re the only ones that will be held accountable for it. The republicans will hold witch burnings while completely ignoring their own member’s names on the list.

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      Yup. Everybody’s just going to pretend nothing ever happened and move on.

      Just to be clear, that is not what should happen

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        Even if it comes to light, I have doubts anything will come of it. Look what happened with the Panama papers. Basically only Iceland did anything about it.

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    Simple, they have more to loose than what they stand to gain.

    There are almost certainly several high profile democrats on the list, they don’t want to expose themselves so they are blocking the release.

    But ok, let’s assume that the list has zero democrats on it, that doesn’t matter at this point, since it will be extremely difficult to find someone who the public can actually trust to give them real unbiased data.

    The republicans knows that they can just lie and say that anyone in the democrats is on the list and just about everyone of their supporters will believe them

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    Maybe the idea that Epstein was at the head of a global network of paedophiles, involved with trafficking young girls and boys for the likes of Trump, Clinton and Gates is fanciful.

    Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes.

    The idea that this is all some Mossad psi-op to influence US politics is also bonkers and predictably falls into classic anti-semitic tropes.

    Is it tittilating and fun to speculate about with people online? Sure. Does social and traditional media love a good juicy story like this and will continue to give it play and play? Absolutely.

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    Its rumored that Epstein was working with Israeli Intelligence so they probably have big files on many prominent Democrats and Republicans which is why everybody talks a big game about releasing the client list (if it exists) but never follows through. Its stuff like this that exposes the real game that both these parties are working together against the American people. The party always comes first.

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      Pretty sure he was an asset and Ghislaine is the agent. Both based in who’s alive, and whose father’s funeral was attended by multiple former heads of Mossad.

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        This is the part that should be brought up always. MOSSAD ATTENDED STATE FUNERAL

        it’s all a game. They use the vulnerable as currency and bargaining chips. Literal evil.

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    What is “the list”? How do we know the government even has “the list”?

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    There are probably highly placed people in both parties on the list. Is this saying “SeE, tHeY’rE BoTh ThE sAmE!!!”? No, it’s saying both have bad actors in them. Neither party has a claim to being morally pristine, because that would be stupid and so is insisting that they should.

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        The fallacy of overgeneralization. I’ve never heard of Warren Buffet doing anything malicious, he’s just really good at investing.

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          • disowned his granddaughter because she was interviewed on a documentary about the wealthy
          • propublica published and article pointing out the hypocrisies of his trading ethics and what he publicly states are his ethics
          • in 2008 he invested $5bln in Goldman Sachs, the company that is considered ground zero for the 2008 recession
          • continues to support and invest in fossil fuels despite the clear evidence of the dangers to our planet
          • has been accused of multiple cases of insider trading his entire career

          he’s no monster, sure. he’s also no saint either. he’s guilty of being complicit with the current class warfare and division of equality in the world. not only that, he has profited directly by the suffering of people.

          to me, that makes him a bad person. I’m sure he’ll lose lots of sleep over that.

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            He also bought a lot of land and housing with Berkshire, including prefab houses and trailers, taking over poor people properties and making them more expensive

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    because includes alot of politicians, donors, and other world leaders, movie executives. just like the panama papers got swept under the carpet, it including tons of rich people.

    Gates, musk, trump, hawkings, diddy,etc.

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    For the same reason republicans won’t: They’re on the list, their friends are on the list and their donors are on the list.

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        The difference is the democrats didn’t campaign on the promise of releasing it. And MAGAs believed him for some weird reason

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          So? Do you think a politician cares about their campaign promisses, or gets held to them? They very often do the exact opposite of what they promised actually

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            The point I’m making is Biden never campaigned on releasing the Epstein files. So it shouldn’t be surprising that he protected the people on the list. Trump did and his idiots fully expected him to release the list because he’s an honest person who keeps his promises. Trump knowingly and intentionally got votes from the psycho qanon types who have always believed trump is playing 4D chess.

            It’s important to note that the goal posts have moved. Originally people wanted to see the “black book” which may be what the client list has come from. The black book got released and it’s got lots of people in it but it didn’t prove any crimes, only that he associated with them. People kept talking about it and believed it was being kept secret because nothing happens and no one got charged with anything. I believe the “client list” which appears to be a new idea, is directly talking about a list of people who the fbi have information on of committing crimes where Epstein supplied underaged girls to them.

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    As non-American, the reason I think that Democrats didn’t release the list was that not only were some Democrats and their donors on it, they knew that they would be crucified by Republicans and Americans for it. The also knew that at the same time all the Republicans and their donors on the list would be let off because laws, morality, ethics are only ever to be used to oppress the poor and non-whites or to combat Democratic politicians. Do you think Trump would ever have made it to President as a Democrat? There is a reason he switched to become a Republican.