Afatwa, or religious decree, issued by senior Iranian clerics calling for the assassination of U.S. President Donald Trump has attracted online funding worth tens of millions of dollars, reports say.
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That will be bittersweet for any countries he destroys whilst flailing.
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he’s at war with the American people.
He hasn’t managed to start any global conflicts, despite his best efforts. All the other countries are having to be the adult in the room while he shits the bed.
How does a fatwa work? I don’t know much about it. Can anyone collect that bounty or do you, like, need to be Islamic/Iranian?
It would be hilarious if a prominent republican tried to collect on that
“Et tu, Vance?”
Has there ever been an assassination that was motivated by a public bounty? And did the assassin successfully collect?
i kinda wanna read his book now
I’m not asking whether there have been any previous similar bounties—I’m asking whether any of them were the primary incentive for a successful assassination.
The attempt against Rushdie failed, and the attacker claims to have had religious rather than financial motivations (and doesn’t seem to have planned to escape to collect payment in any case).
If they got away with it, we won’t have heard about it.
That’s why I’m specifically wondering about the public aspect of the bounty—it presupposes that the assassin will be publicly known and able to conduct financial transactions afterward, and that the sponsor will be able to openly make good on their promise.
One way they could do it:
- assassin writes down their plan, including time, place, method, and payment address
- assassin hashes plan, then time-stamps and publishes the hash
- assassination takes place
- assassin publishes plantext plan and link to hash, proving beforehand knowledge
- sponsor pays assassin without even having to know who it is
The sponsor would have to be able to publicly demonstrate that the assassin was paid, though—otherwise they could claim to have paid the bounty while keeping the money, and the assassin couldn‘t protest without exposing their identity.
But they could publish another hash.
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Curb your Enthusiasm did a whole season about this. Should be relatively straightforward for him to get them to call it off as long as he follows their blueprint.
I’m picturing Taco dressing up as “Buck Dancer” and arguing over hotel staff about the proper handling of baked goods and whether they are “freshly baked” by the in-house chef, or just Pepperidge Farm products.
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GoKillMe fund raiser
Iranian hardline version of Kickstarter shoot be called “HeartStopper”. I’m wondering what their stretch goals are.
Where can I donate?
Bad idea if you live in a country with extradition treaty with the US.
You could end up in gitmo for “providing material support to terrorist activity”, because that is technically what you are doing, money is material support.
I can’t tell you what to do, but like if Iran actually manage to do it, it would be the best excuse to get Iran obliterated from the map, and most NATO countries will probably help with the invasion of Iran under Article 5, since that’s effectively like a 9/11 v2 (not in number of deaths, but in terms of being able to justify a foreign war).
Iran performing the assassination is 100x worse than, say that nutjob in 2024 doing it. If trump die from that kid’s gunshot, there wouldn’t be much happening, but if Iran did it? In this tense political climate where 1/3 of the US population are in a cult? Can you even imagine all the lynchings against Muslims, Arabs, and anyone who “looks middle eastern”?
Any soldiers or national guard that was bordering on “hmm, is this actually legal”, will now not even question their orders. Being anti-trump in the aftermath of this hypothetical assassination would be treated as almost as bad as supporting al-qaeda.
Its not a good idea, IMO.
If Trump were assassinated, I would celebrate, and donate to the assassin’s defense fund. I don’t care if MAGA Nazis consider me a terrorist. Fuck them and their treasonous, corrupt ignorance.
As he lived for creating chaos, his own death would make him happy. The man who destroyed civilization has a certain ring, doesn’t it?
Why article 5? Is it not only valid if a country suffers an unprovoked attack? It will be hard to argue that bombing a country is not a provocation.
Because the US has intervened in the middle east for a long time before 9/11 and it was actuallt said to be bin laden’s motivation to attack the US. Look at what happened after 9/11; article 5 was triggered. They didn’t seem to think the US interventions in the middle east were a “provocation”.
Article 5 and Catch 22, which in this case would be formulated as, “They can do anything that we can’t stop them from doing.” One could make that argument, but who’d be listening?
You can get thrown in a concentration camp because your skin’s too dark and you weren’t carrying your ID, even if you’re a US citizen.
That’s one of the side effects about tossing out the rule of law. If merely protesting or having a certain meme on your phone is dangerous, then might as well go all in.
But you also have to consider the “court of public opinion”
Funding a foreign assassination attempt will only unite all of the right-of-center and take away some of support of “centrist”/“conservative” democrats. Bush popularity skyrocketed after 9/11, Patriot Act and all that.
On the otherhand, some right wing nutjob young adult loser having nothing to lose and start targeting policitians left and right (like that kid in 2024), would be your best bet. There won’t be any “rally 'round the flag” effect.
As we can all see with all the US interventions overseas, they clearly don’t work that well, that principle also goes if Iran tries to do their intervention in the US.
And if you aren’t in the US, I’m not sure you wanna risk extradition. Donating money to an Iran sponsored assassination campaign is not an internet meme.
I mean, sure if Europeans wanna send an the military to liberate the US, go ahead. But that €5 donation to an Iranian asasination campaign isn’t really gonna change the US by much and would only put yourself on an extradition plane to the US, because this isn’t a meme, you’re giving material support, so I doubt any of the western countries would deny an extradition request for material support. And even if that plan goes into fruition, you might make the US even worse and in turn, the US could start fucking up the world even more.
Again, I’m not arguing against violence as a strategy, but you’re expecting nazis to be defeated simply by killing hitler, its not that simple.
Perhaps move to Iran first, then you can really appreciate the greatness of that society and their great struggle against evil.
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A temporary alliance in a common goal is fine. Whatever Iran is doing it doesn’t deserve the Israel/US bombing and war crimes.
I don’t think making him a martyr would be a good idea. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t shed a tear if he passed with the worst agony I can imagine. But making him a martyr would make his agenda immortal.
The martyr window would have been more during the campaign leading up to the election. That window is closed now.
Further I think Trump is now the least of our problems with the Trump administration. I fear JD would be even worse.
During the Biden term, the worst people built plans around a trump return to office and the relatively more strong execution this time versus last time is from those around him, not himself so much.
I’m unconvinced they can find a replacement for him that touches the nerve of all those hateful loons at once. Who are they going to have? JD Vance and his eyeliner?
The next election they’d play the “Do it for Him” card, but I can’t see them queuing round the block to vote for anyone else. They voted for Donald because even in their politically sheltered lives, they’d heard of him and seen him on TV. As somebody who watched Boris Johnson rise to power, it really is as fucking dumb as that.
Martyrs tend to be symbols to a cause. Trump and maga don’t have much ideology it’s more a cult of personality. Those tend to go away when the central figure dies.
Why didn’t that happen with Bobby Kennedy and his aspirations for social justice?
I understand what you mean. But think of Hitler. Obviously his agenda did not die with him. But imagine all the numbnuts if he was assasinated on the peak of his power.
And to be fair, the easiest way to tell someone doesnt belong in society is when they start spouting hitlers views. A little litmus test, as a treat
thats exactly what he did. He killed himself before he could get captured because videos of him in detention and beaten senseless would diminish his legacy. Your example is prove of the other guy being right
Also, Hitler didn’t invent racism or antisemitism. His agenda didn’t die with him not because he was such a powerful figure, but because he was harnessing prejudices that have existed before apes even started to walk upright.
I disagree. The people who want to make him a Martyr will make him a Martyr no matter what. The people who know what he has done will understand that him being killed doesn’t make any of that better.
See the way all the other Fascists in the world before him were handled.
I don’t think you are wrong. But I think an assassination would be the icing on the idiot cake.
He needs to take the adolf way out.
Nah, it needs to be supremely conspiracy proof. Too many people will believe it was assassination of it could have possibly been assassination.
He’s an old unhealthy man, albeit with the best possible health care. His passing is moderately likely in an average day from health issues.
He also completely seems the type to leave a come-to-jesus meeting with his doctor about how he absolutely has to change his diet and start exercising and still hit the McDonald’s drive thru on the way home, so with a little luck, the best possible medical care won’t matter nearly as much as it could.
Worst take in the thread. Martyr or not his philosophy and his followers is “unbridled self interest” aka “fuck you, I got mine.” Martyrdom is antethetical to the cause.
Somebody offing him would set a good example that being a corrupt, fascist leader is not a good way to get riches or a long healthy life.
Am I saying anyone should do something? No.
Let’s assume that succeeds. A bunch of religious fanatics signing their fellow countrymen’s death warrant. How is that different from maga loonies pulling down America? Still love the fact, but… Yeah
Where do I donate?
Trump is the anti human.
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Is there a donation website or something?
Just curious. I wouldn’t send money. Thoughts and prayers maybe. No money.
where can we donate to this fund asking for a friend 🙏
How many ways can the secret service split that?
The need for GoFundMe in our society has really gotten out of control.
