I wouldn’t care. If they’re religious they’ll be following the morals and views of their religion. A little praying won’t change or harm anyone. No different to another group having a chat
The reactions to the Satanic Temple using pro-religion laws, and social media posts about public displays of established religions like Muslim prayers, show that most Americans do not approve displays of any religion except their own. With that in mind, the reasonable compromise is that there shouldn’t be religious displays inside of state institutions.
So instead of allowing members to pray in the legislature, you want them to go outside? That’s not inclusive of religions either. Not to mention they can call for a vote soon as all those whom are required by their religion to pray were mandated to leave to pray. I’m an atheist, but we need to let religion die on its own. Forcing it out will cause more problems than solutions. 30 years from now it will likely be rare to see it happen. But I’ll still stand by it being their right to practice on their own
If André Carson, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Lateefah Simon all prayed together in the House at one of the 5 daily prayers, during a vote, would the USA shrug?
That’s not what that means. Separation of church and state simply means that the law doesn’t favor one religion over another. What you’re thinking of is the French formulation, known as laicite, which—you guessed it—is a French thing. It’s also based on some pretty problematic ideas that lead and have led to some pretty problematic results, so yeah.
For a non-French example, he’s the Australian constitution on the topic:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
Nothing at all about lawmakers publicly adhering to a religion.
They’re praying to pass a bill that kicks 15 million off health care and starves children so a handful of billionaires pay less tax.
That’s what Jesus would do.
They likely believe they’re doing all this in God’s name even though it is entirely against the actual teachings of Jesus.
He said also to the man who had invited him, “When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return and you be repaid. But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”
I think it’s because these are people with the power to do more than thoughts and prayers. But they just stick with that while also taking health care off veterans and giving tax breaks to the rich.
Why is that infuriating? I’m not religious, but why would this not be allowed?
How would most people react if that was a group of Muslims? Or if the Satanic Church tried to do a small prayer there?
I wouldn’t care. If they’re religious they’ll be following the morals and views of their religion. A little praying won’t change or harm anyone. No different to another group having a chat
We knew you were concern trolling. Thanks for confirming though.
We now know you will just shoot down any alternative opinion and pretend it is trolling. Thanks for confirming.
Most would be fine with it. It’s done often and both parties shit on someone last month for taking issue with it.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/5337130-illinois-republican-mary-miller-sikh-muslim-prayer/amp/
The reactions to the Satanic Temple using pro-religion laws, and social media posts about public displays of established religions like Muslim prayers, show that most Americans do not approve displays of any religion except their own. With that in mind, the reasonable compromise is that there shouldn’t be religious displays inside of state institutions.
So instead of allowing members to pray in the legislature, you want them to go outside? That’s not inclusive of religions either. Not to mention they can call for a vote soon as all those whom are required by their religion to pray were mandated to leave to pray. I’m an atheist, but we need to let religion die on its own. Forcing it out will cause more problems than solutions. 30 years from now it will likely be rare to see it happen. But I’ll still stand by it being their right to practice on their own
Separation of church and state is supposed to be a thing. Lawmakers praying inside the chamber isn’t separate at all.
They are jackass.
But this is as educated as screaming first amendment when a mod removes a post. Wow.
If André Carson, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Lateefah Simon all prayed together in the House at one of the 5 daily prayers, during a vote, would the USA shrug?
Nope, it’d be another 911 to the R tards and they’d scream about it like bitchy toddlers from every podium they could find
Both Republicans and Democrats said Miller was rediculous for complaining about prayers
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/5337130-illinois-republican-mary-miller-sikh-muslim-prayer/amp/
Actually not surprising at all
That’s not what that means. Separation of church and state simply means that the law doesn’t favor one religion over another. What you’re thinking of is the French formulation, known as laicite, which—you guessed it—is a French thing. It’s also based on some pretty problematic ideas that lead and have led to some pretty problematic results, so yeah.
For a non-French example, he’s the Australian constitution on the topic:
Nothing at all about lawmakers publicly adhering to a religion.
They’re praying to pass a bill that kicks 15 million off health care and starves children so a handful of billionaires pay less tax.
That’s what Jesus would do.
But you and I know their prayers won’t change anything so what’s the issue?
They likely believe they’re doing all this in God’s name even though it is entirely against the actual teachings of Jesus.
Luke 14:12-14
So holy.
These people should be more holey
“people”
I think it’s because these are people with the power to do more than thoughts and prayers. But they just stick with that while also taking health care off veterans and giving tax breaks to the rich.
That’s the power. They’re doing more.