So jelly 😌
I read this as more “not having to experience the daily news for a month and being horrified”.
Oh fuck off. Therapy won’t help with… *gestures at everything*
Agreed. It’s more like “people would rather be lost at sea than live in a modern society”.
To be fair we were breed to be lost at sea/forest/steppe, not live in a modern society. Like that’s our natural place to live and die, not a city.
How bad can it be? /s
I don’t know what I’m holding out for. Maybe I should fix my teeth, take the gadgets I already have, and get lost forever.
Just goes to show how insane society has become that you’d rather go to therapy than take a 29 day break by being lost at sea.
Society hasn’t become that bad. It’s becoming that bad again, and almost none of us are used to it.
“Gee I love working, can’t wait to reduce my down time to work some more.”
29 days away from reality is therapy.
There’s a tiny town in northern California called Downieville that my wife and I love to visit. It’s maybe 200 people, sits on the convergence of two decent sized rivers, and there is pretty much no cell service. Even just a week of sitting by that river is enough to fully recharge me and not want to break everything for at least 4 months.
Being lost at sea is reality. Society is the dream
No, we’d rather be lost at sea than have to participate in the broken society that makes people need therapy.
You can just do that. No one is stopping you from buying a canoe and floating away
A cursory glance implies a decent canoe starts at $2000, so my bank account is stopping me, at bare minimum
Your ethical choice to not just steal it is the only thing stopping you.
100%
But also, go to therapy
I lack the photoshop skills, but uh
The ‘plap plap GET PREGNANT’ meme, but with a therapist shouting:
‘accept what you can’t change’
‘don’t blame yourself for things out of your control’
‘oh, the copay is $125’
‘you missed the last appointment so we charged you for not canceling in advance’
‘im worried you’re not taking our sessions seriously’
sorry psych professionals, there is no ethical therapy under capitalism
The ‘plap plap GET PREGNANT’ meme, but with a therapist shouting:
h’whut with h’whomb?
Ok, I may not have great photoshop skills, but I do have a knowledge of ancient memes:
i feel vindicated.
there is no ethical therapy under capitalism
Lol
Therepy - costs money, needs an appointment, takes time to work out issues.
Lost at sea - free, no appointment necessary, immediate relief from the burden of living under capitalism
But the ocean wants to kill you… (can’t blame oceans for wanting to kill humans but it is not your fault…). Therapy can be obtained in many different ways. I think maybe going to a therapist is for people who need motivation to care for themselves, need help starting to be healthy, compassionate and forgiving to themselves and get some coaching to find good ways to get there. We sometimes are in a place too low to help ourselves and need some help, a hand… guidance, encouragement and reinforcement that we are worth the trouble and energy.
Just get a project car. It costs money too, but you have a getaway from life, just go to your garage. And the end result is a cool car.
I ask myself spicier questions than the therapist ever will anyway. I haven’t gotten a project car though, that’s too much therapy. My mind already wanders far enough in any situation.
Have you tried going to therapy?
Of course I’ve tried going to, there’s a sea.
Depends on which is cheaper tbh.
Would pay to “get lost at sea for 29 days”.
hey we need a rest from capitalism and zoom meetings.
29 days “lost” at sea, is therapy for all of the external bullshit we deal with every fucking day.
By “we” I mean people in society, not just men. Everyone struggles with making their way in “this world” we built for ourselves. We made it to be this horrible.
When I was deployed it was nice, I didn’t have bullshit to worry about. I did my job, I ate, I took shits, and I slept.
I watch some trash reality TV and always find it kind of funny how contestants spend a long amount of time internalizing the stress of the situation the show they agreed to be on is putting on them.
Half of Love Island is “Why did you kiss them?” “Why did you go on a date with that person?” “Why did you break up with me?” Guys it’s a SHOW. The SHOW is making you go through these completely unnatural circumstances!
And then I think about real life and it’s like “why don’t I have energy? why am I so depressed? why can’t I be more productive?” …guys it’s CAPITALISM/SOCIETY. SOCIETY is making you go through these completely unnatural circumstances!
…except of course I didn’t agree to be on this show.
None of us did.
I didn’t get a say in whether or not to be born. I’m just here now and I have to deal with all of this shit.
If I had everything to survive, a way to go back and couple of books - sign me up.
My best friend spent a week in the hospital with a life-threatening condition. Besides the almost dying part, it was the most relaxing and life-refocusing event of their adult life and they’re grateful to have experienced it. A forced reset and some compulsory solitude can be a blessing sometimes.
Were I to ever go to prison, I think I would personally love to get some solitary confinement time.
Solitude? Damn, are your hospitals made out of gold as well?
If you’re unlucky over here you get up to 7 other patiens in the same, unventilated room. Including patients who have air-transmittable infections because why not?
Air conditioning doesn’t exist in hospitals either by the way. That’s a luxury hospitals aren’t obligated to (and as such never) provide. Enjoy dehydrating in 30°C+ rooms.
I’d much rather just stay in solitude in my home for a week.
over here you get up to 7 other patiens in the same, unventilated room. Including patients who have air-transmittable infections
That’s a surprisingly apt description of Hell, at least for me.
My friend was at a much nicer hospital, albeit they didn’t see anything made of gold. They had their own room. It certainly wasn’t paradise; I think the recovery from sepsis gave them a clarity of mind and purpose that transcended the casual discomforts. Plus they were medevac’d 400km from their home, so they were more socially isolated than normal. Sort of like a monastic experience? Thankfully they have excellent insurance, so the medical costs weren’t a giant concern like they would be for most people in the US, which probably would have been mentally debilitating otherwise.
Where I live, hospitals are way better than this. My dad got slashed by a stingray in the ankle and was treated and admitted to a two bed room with air conditioning, circulation, TVs, and a whole host of other stuff, all for free.
Which country do you live in by chance? I’m in Australia, so Medicare’s pretty solid here, I’m quite curious on how it works over there.
Germany.
8 patients per room is really the upper legal limit (as anything more is considered intolerable) and exceedingly rare but having at least one other patient in the same room is the default. Even if single rooms are available, hospitals prefer to put you into rooms with other people as they offer single patient rooms for ~120€/day and dual patient rooms for ~70€/day.
When I was in the hospital for a pretty severe gastrointestinal infection as a child, I had one bed neighbor with a severe cough which I obviously caught after the stay. It wasn’t as severe but pretty annoying nonetheless.
TVs generally exist for free but usually only one per room so you’ll have to negotiate with your roommates. WiFi, if existant, definitely costs money and will have early 2000’s speed.
In general, hospital stays have roughly the same standard as in the 70’s or 80’s as there hasn’t been noteworthy investment ever since. Anything considered a luxury and unnecessary for treatment will likely not be provided for free.
I hate how I understand this.
“men hate therapy”
Yeah not really. You just get beaten down after trying several therapists and paying a lot and not feeling better. Even if you went through that once, it’s very discouraging.
I have a great therapist these days who has helped me a lot. I still hate therapy. I did finally figure out why, though. Because, with the exception of therapy and a couple of really great people, everyone I’ve ever been vulnerable in front of has weaponized it against me. So even though I know my therapist wouldn’t actually do that I’m still waiting on it to come back and bite me.
Yeah, the weaponization factor is real.
Been dumped by three women, the day after they saw me cry. Good news! My wife is fine with it, as rare as crying is, and comforts me. But y’all women don’t have a good track record in my book.
See but I had a psychiatrist as a kid that would literally report what I said to my mother (and not like harming others or myself like is legally required, just like, shit that I said I didn’t like about my mom and then he’d tell her and she’d punish me about it.) Legally, he was allowed to do that since I was a child, I’m not now and so legally they can’t even if they had her phone number, but now I can’t trust them even if that distrust is slightly illogical. Double distrust due to incentive to make me return and keep paying, but y’know the childhood “trauma” (if you can call it that) of having it weaponized against me using the therapist is still there on that one too.
Reminds me of the plot line in early seasons of Mad Men where Betty would go to a shrink, then later that night Don would call the doc to see what all Betty said.
Probably not what you want to hear, it really sucks to be in that spot, but it is possible to find good ones! I went through 3 therapists over the course of a couple of years before finding one that helped me.
Not to mention it just doesn’t work as well for men as it does for women.
Please say why it is that you believe that. It’s a fascinating claim.
What??
Agreed. What? I’ve never seen a study stating this. And anecdotally, it worked fine for me, once I found the right therapist, the first two were meh, not a good fit.
