• ashenone@lemmy.ml
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    Therepy - costs money, needs an appointment, takes time to work out issues.

    Lost at sea - free, no appointment necessary, immediate relief from the burden of living under capitalism

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      Just get a project car. It costs money too, but you have a getaway from life, just go to your garage. And the end result is a cool car.

      I ask myself spicier questions than the therapist ever will anyway. I haven’t gotten a project car though, that’s too much therapy. My mind already wanders far enough in any situation.

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      But the ocean wants to kill you… (can’t blame oceans for wanting to kill humans but it is not your fault…). Therapy can be obtained in many different ways. I think maybe going to a therapist is for people who need motivation to care for themselves, need help starting to be healthy, compassionate and forgiving to themselves and get some coaching to find good ways to get there. We sometimes are in a place too low to help ourselves and need some help, a hand… guidance, encouragement and reinforcement that we are worth the trouble and energy.

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    Just goes to show how insane society has become that you’d rather go to therapy than take a 29 day break by being lost at sea.

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      Society hasn’t become that bad. It’s becoming that bad again, and almost none of us are used to it.

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      29 days away from reality is therapy.

      There’s a tiny town in northern California called Downieville that my wife and I love to visit. It’s maybe 200 people, sits on the convergence of two decent sized rivers, and there is pretty much no cell service. Even just a week of sitting by that river is enough to fully recharge me and not want to break everything for at least 4 months.

  • very_well_lost@lemmy.world
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    No, we’d rather be lost at sea than have to participate in the broken society that makes people need therapy.

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        A cursory glance implies a decent canoe starts at $2000, so my bank account is stopping me, at bare minimum

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      I lack the photoshop skills, but uh

      The ‘plap plap GET PREGNANT’ meme, but with a therapist shouting:

      ‘accept what you can’t change’

      ‘don’t blame yourself for things out of your control’

      ‘oh, the copay is $125’

      ‘you missed the last appointment so we charged you for not canceling in advance’

      ‘im worried you’re not taking our sessions seriously’

      sorry psych professionals, there is no ethical therapy under capitalism

  • Gordon Calhoun@lemmy.world
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    My best friend spent a week in the hospital with a life-threatening condition. Besides the almost dying part, it was the most relaxing and life-refocusing event of their adult life and they’re grateful to have experienced it. A forced reset and some compulsory solitude can be a blessing sometimes.

    Were I to ever go to prison, I think I would personally love to get some solitary confinement time.

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      Solitude? Damn, are your hospitals made out of gold as well?

      If you’re unlucky over here you get up to 7 other patiens in the same, unventilated room. Including patients who have air-transmittable infections because why not?

      Air conditioning doesn’t exist in hospitals either by the way. That’s a luxury hospitals aren’t obligated to (and as such never) provide. Enjoy dehydrating in 30°C+ rooms.

      I’d much rather just stay in solitude in my home for a week.

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        over here you get up to 7 other patiens in the same, unventilated room. Including patients who have air-transmittable infections

        That’s a surprisingly apt description of Hell, at least for me.

        My friend was at a much nicer hospital, albeit they didn’t see anything made of gold. They had their own room. It certainly wasn’t paradise; I think the recovery from sepsis gave them a clarity of mind and purpose that transcended the casual discomforts. Plus they were medevac’d 400km from their home, so they were more socially isolated than normal. Sort of like a monastic experience? Thankfully they have excellent insurance, so the medical costs weren’t a giant concern like they would be for most people in the US, which probably would have been mentally debilitating otherwise.

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        Where I live, hospitals are way better than this. My dad got slashed by a stingray in the ankle and was treated and admitted to a two bed room with air conditioning, circulation, TVs, and a whole host of other stuff, all for free.

        Which country do you live in by chance? I’m in Australia, so Medicare’s pretty solid here, I’m quite curious on how it works over there.

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          Germany.

          8 patients per room is really the upper legal limit (as anything more is considered intolerable) and exceedingly rare but having at least one other patient in the same room is the default. Even if single rooms are available, hospitals prefer to put you into rooms with other people as they offer single patient rooms for ~120€/day and dual patient rooms for ~70€/day.

          When I was in the hospital for a pretty severe gastrointestinal infection as a child, I had one bed neighbor with a severe cough which I obviously caught after the stay. It wasn’t as severe but pretty annoying nonetheless.

          TVs generally exist for free but usually only one per room so you’ll have to negotiate with your roommates. WiFi, if existant, definitely costs money and will have early 2000’s speed.

          In general, hospital stays have roughly the same standard as in the 70’s or 80’s as there hasn’t been noteworthy investment ever since. Anything considered a luxury and unnecessary for treatment will likely not be provided for free.

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    “men hate therapy”

    Yeah not really. You just get beaten down after trying several therapists and paying a lot and not feeling better. Even if you went through that once, it’s very discouraging.

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      Probably not what you want to hear, it really sucks to be in that spot, but it is possible to find good ones! I went through 3 therapists over the course of a couple of years before finding one that helped me.

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      I have a great therapist these days who has helped me a lot. I still hate therapy. I did finally figure out why, though. Because, with the exception of therapy and a couple of really great people, everyone I’ve ever been vulnerable in front of has weaponized it against me. So even though I know my therapist wouldn’t actually do that I’m still waiting on it to come back and bite me.

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        See but I had a psychiatrist as a kid that would literally report what I said to my mother (and not like harming others or myself like is legally required, just like, shit that I said I didn’t like about my mom and then he’d tell her and she’d punish me about it.) Legally, he was allowed to do that since I was a child, I’m not now and so legally they can’t even if they had her phone number, but now I can’t trust them even if that distrust is slightly illogical. Double distrust due to incentive to make me return and keep paying, but y’know the childhood “trauma” (if you can call it that) of having it weaponized against me using the therapist is still there on that one too.

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          Reminds me of the plot line in early seasons of Mad Men where Betty would go to a shrink, then later that night Don would call the doc to see what all Betty said.

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        Been dumped by three women, the day after they saw me cry. Good news! My wife is fine with it, as rare as crying is, and comforts me. But y’all women don’t have a good track record in my book.

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    Therapy, trying to make you seem ok with the absolute bullshit you have to deal with which you know is wrong.

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        I don’t know many people that can afford a 29 day vacation (I’m in the US, and yes I’m jealous of what I hear about European benefits)

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          I was mostly joking :) But also here I am with 35 paid vacation days (I also have maybe 13 paid days of parental leave left, which was initially 210 days, per child).

          10/10 would recommend being born here.

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          Yeah it’s pretty fantastic, even if by some miracle I don’t have to work, all I can afford to do is sit at home anyway.

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          I was on a work call the other day, listening to my peers complain about European work culture - “They just leave at 5:00 sharp, even if the project isn’t done! They’ll say ‘we’ll just pick it up in the morning and finish it then’ as if that’s good enough!” “You can’t contact them on weekends or vacations at all! They don’t even read and answer email!” “They take such long vacations! And just disappear! They won’t even take their work laptops with them or check in once! It’s so frustrating!”

          I wanted to scream. Y’all realize we’re the crazy people, right?!

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      I’m getting major surgery in two weeks and I’ll be on short term disability for an entire month afterwards. I’m honestly really looking forward to the time off, even if it’ll be full of physical suffering. My burnout outweighs the physical trauma of having nearly all of my reproductive organs removed.

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        I did the same, back during COVID lockdown. I think my body just started producing endorphins, because I stopped taking the painkillers and was totally at peace while everybody lost their minds over the isolation. I played The Outer Wilds and accepted that everything must end.

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          I feel guilty saying it, because I know I was in a privileged position, with a job that could be done remotely and living close to nature, but I fucking loved COVID lockdown. I can’t remember being so happy since childhood. Everything just slowed down, and I spent more time with my family.

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      If I could drop out of everything for 29 days, I wouldn’t come back at all.

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        It is sad when you start considering going to rehab just to get 28-30 days away from work to de-stress, get sleep, meditate, do some inner work and work on healthy habits. Because if you are single and not reproducing, you don’t get maternity leave and if you are young or middle aged and relatively healthy, you aren’t getting any orthopedic surgeries that render you temporarily disabled… and if you already lost your parents, there is no family leave… I mean, I can adopt or pretend to adopt I have some kind of addictive habit but would prefer not to-- Can’t I just take a mental health leave of absence and then return to my job? One week here or there every 6 months (if I am lucky) is just not going to do it.

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    Here’s my thing with therapy. I know the issue, i know what’s wrong with me, and I know what I’m supposed to do to fix it, i just don’t. I can’t see how therapy will help beyond what I’ve got

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      You can talk about why you dont want to fix it. Maybe there’s something there. Sometimes there’s just a hump you need to get over and wont unless you push yourself.

      If not you can kind of live in that space for a while and see if the barrier is even real in the first place.