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    Ladies and gentlemen, the party of law and order. We know who will be selected as the new supreme court judge soon…

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      Who’s the president right now? Wonder what he’s up to. Wonder if he’s fixing this. Wonder if he’s anything better than the capitalistic fascist of American conservatism.

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        Republicans have the majority at the moment. A president isn’t a dictator, though Trump is planning to become one.

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        Well if the supreme Court will give presidents immunity prior November, so that Trump can participate, then Biden just has to order a hit on him. because, you know presidents are immune. …

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          If Trump is actually, as so many claim, a threat to our way of government then he’s a domestic enemy.

          I guess maybe that’s all just trivial talk though.

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        I wish we had better civics classes in schools. It would be nice to skip past all the 13-year-olds’ spicy takes on why this judge is somehow Biden’s fault.

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          “the fact that i am at risk of seeing a 14 year old’s opinion at any time of day on the internet is a human rights violation” - nostradamus, 2020

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        He doesn’t have the majority needed to do all that needs to be done, otherwise he could’ve expanded SCOTUS already and reversed half the bullshit.

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        Seems like you want to say something there little buddy. Be brave, say what you want to say instead of asking questions.

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          Those questions are extremely easily translated into statements:

          Biden is President right now
          He’s doing nothing to fix this

          Gosh my brain hurts after all that generous reading.

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            I agree with that. How is that relevant to the root of this conversation?

            Just because the Republicans are shit doesn’t mean that the Democrats are not also shit.

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            Do you even know what a president does? The fuck kind of idiotic take is this?

            Take a fucking civics course dumbass

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    Fully irresponsible to not have “trump-appointed…” leading that headline for all the out of touch people seeing this for the first time.

    Just federal judge, huh? No other relevant context to mention?

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    I was being pessimistic when I said he wouldn’t be charged with squat if they run the Stormy Daniels case before, you know, ruling on the integrity of our highest office.

    My father still remains hopeful “they’ll get him like they got Al Capone” (on taxes), but I have a hard time seeing that through when he still has judges appointed by him, ruling on him. Oh and yeah we’re not even going to approach his highest crimes because that would be disadvantageous to his campaign… give me a break ffs

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      You’re assuming Trump will win the election. He won’t.

      Jesus, why do people forget that Trump lost an election while being president and while trying to tamper with it? What makes you think he will win this time?

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        Remember when people balked at Trump being president back in 2014/2015 and then were very surprised come 2016 when he won?

        Don’t underestimate Trump

        Don’t be complacent… complacency is what put him in the white house the first time

        Peoples memories are short, the republican propaganda machine is huge, and trump didn’t lose decisively enough to reflect the damage he did to the country

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          Yes, I remember this. But people have wised up. How do I know? Because Trump lost while being a sitting president, an event that doesn’t happen often. At least in 2015/2016, a lot of people were giving him the benefit of the doubt. And it wasn’t the majority (he lost the popular vote, as we all know.)

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              Ignore the polls. Look at the trump signs around you. At least where I’m at in Florida, they’re probably at tenth of what they were in 2020. I was a republican in 2020 that voted for Biden and renounced my affiliation after the senate acquitted in the second impeachment. The only demographic that Trump is seeing increased support from is young men, a famously allergic to going to the polls group.

              We should fight like hell to make it a landslide but the polls published right now are only there to drive engagement. Democrats have outperformed the polls by 5-10pts in every election since 2020.

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              Indeed, but to be frank, I take political polls with a grain of salt these days. They rarely reflect the actual result of the elections.

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                  Just do a google search with these terms: polls show clinton trump biden

                  You will see polls largely favoring Hillary, or largely favoring Biden, or saying that Trump is winning. Then in the end the elections are pretty much 50/50.

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                In my experience over the last few election cycles the polls tend to understate the support of the right wing candidate

                Almost all the polls showed Hillary winning in 2016

                Almost all the polls showed Trump losing in a landslide in 2020, yes the dems got the whitehouse, the senate and the house but the majorities were much thinner than expected.

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                The polls are actually pretty good. There are two problems:

                1. The US is very closely divided when it comes to the Presidential Election. In 2016 the popular vote split was about 2%. In 2020 it was about 4.5%. And most of the polling was right in that range.
                2. People are shit at statistics. Most of the polls will be published with an error margin of 5% or so. For situations where on candidate is ahead 10-20%, this still puts that candidate winning by a comfortable margin. When the poll is showing a race with one person ahead by 2%, that means the poll is also showing that the other candidate winning is well within the expected result.

                And unfortunately, people like clean story-lines and news organizations are more than happy to supply them. Journalists looked at the polls in 2016 and confidently proclaimed that Clinton was leading. The reality was that she had a slight lead and Trump winning was well within the normal margin of error. This turned into a rather famous spat on twitter.

                Sadly, we’ve been stuck in that situation ever since. In 2020, Biden was a slight favorite, but Trump winning was within the margin of error. Right now, polls show a dead heat and either candidate winning would not be a surprise, if the election were held today. One upshot in this, is that pools this early are not very predictive of the final outcome. They shouldn’t be ignored, but that also shouldn’t be taken as gospel.

                So ya, the polls are fine and do a good job of reflecting the actual results of the elections. The problem is idiots that only look at the top-line outcome and don’t look at the actual numbers and see that they are actually saying “it’s close and could go either way.”

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                  It’s not like I disagree with you, but we’re looking at the same thing with different lens. You’re saying things like “science is accurate” which I can agree with. But then you see headlines like “science says vaccines cause autism,” and that’s what I’m talking about.

                  So, in your own words:

                  The polls are actually pretty good.

                  People are shit at statistics.

                  And unfortunately, people like clean story-lines and news organizations are more than happy to supply them.

                  We’re not disagreeing.

                  If I see a report that says “polls show that Biden/Trump/Clinton is winning,” I’ll think “I’ll believe it on election day.”

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            Trump mostly lost because of his handling of COVID. If he had just said, “hey everyone, this virus is dangerous you might want to take more care and listen to doctors” instead of making it political or denying it so long then he probably would have won. People have already forgotten COVID and are upset with inflation, and many of them blame Biden for that. They rightly aren’t happy with the economy, since rising stock markets and low unemployment doesn’t equate to rising wages to match inflation.

            Biden has done a ton of good things as President, but it never gets press. The bad stuff he has done has gotten a ton of press. I think it will be close again and am hopeful Biden does better at highlighting the good things he’s done.

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        Because his cronies at the state level have had 4 years to gerrymander and pass laws to allow themselves to cheat.

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        He also won when no one (least of all me) suspected he would. I still remember my wife waking me up (i had gone to bed, so sure was i) to tell me Trump had won, and i actually could not believe the words out of her mouth.

        Complacency was very helpful in his winning the election last time, so remember that fact if nothing else. Biden may even be less loved as a candidate than Big H was in '16.

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    I’ll totally pay back those loans. I’m just indefinitely postponing when that’s going to happen.

    BS just come out and say it. You’re not interested in trying the case.

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    Cannon said in her new scheduling order that she will hold a hearing on what had been considered Trump’s longshot request for records from the Biden administration.

    Cannon is going full clown mode.

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    Are folks going to show up here to scold us all for thinking he’ll never see consequences like in every other discussion of a similar headline, or are we starting to move past that point?

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      At this point, it’s really all we have left. Please don’t take that away too. Then we will have nothing left to help us cope with the ever-present sense of disappointment we’re living through.

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      This is the Latin police: it’s “writ of mandamus” with an ‘a.’ First conjugation, indicative present, first person plural.

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        He is the epitome of allowing perfection to impede progress.

        His work on the OKC bombings was the same way. The two of them were dead to rights, but Garland insisted on obtaining every piece of evidence humanly possible. The outcome was exactly the same.

        He tried the same methodology here and it utterly failed.

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    The president can declassify documents. If biden cared about justice he should declassify all the documents at issue in this case.

    You can’t delay a case due to classification issues if the documents are no longer classified when the case goes to trial.

    Simple solution. Make it happen.

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      No, the President can’t just declassify ANY document with the stroke of a pen. Extremely sensitive information, for example nuclear weapons technology, has to be subjected to bureaucratic review process to determine what can actually be declassified, or not.

      But none of that is relevant to this situation, so it wouldn’t solve it. Judge Cannon would simply generate additional reasons to delay the trial.

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      If someone was going to jail for having those documents, making them available to the public might not be the best demonstration of why they needed to be kept secret.

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        On the contrary, releasing the documents would demonstrate exactly why the documents were kept secret. However, doing so would not retroactively legalize mishandling the documents when they were classified.

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          Oh, declassify the documents in question in the case so it can proceed?

          It won’t help, though. This Judge is colluding with the defense. There will just be another excuse. Everything would be declassified for no reason.

          IDK I guess it really doesn’t matter if they’re declassified now since Donald already sold them to foreign adversaries.

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            Trump is only being charged with mishandling the documents. If he sold them, that is a much more serious crime and they would have charged him for that instead of just mishandling.

            If the documents really were sold there wouldn’t be a good reason to keep them classified. The worst has already happened. The only thing keeping the documents classified does in that case is hamper the prosecution from pursuing the case.

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              If the documents really were sold there wouldn’t be a good reason to keep them classified. The worst has already happened. The only thing keeping the documents classified does in that case is hamper the prosecution from pursuing the case.

              How would declassifying not help? How would declassifying not cause the case to be impacted negatively because the case is about classified documents?

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      The president can declassify documents.

      There’s a process only for certain documents. The president cannot declassify all documents.

      You’re making claims but you aren’t providing anything to back that up. A bit unfortunate.

      You can’t delay a case due to classification issues if the documents are no longer classified

      They are classified for a reason. Further, that’ll destroy the case. I really urge you to read up on this. Plus avoid right wing media.

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        If the case needs a jury to make decisions of fact, and the jury is not allowed to see the evidence, you have an unsolvable problem.

        Declassification is a process that takes a known timeframe. It is something the executive branch can do, and because they know which documents they are releasing, they can prepare for the results.

        Juries make their decisions on the facts of the case when the crime occurred. The documents were classified when trump had them. The future status of those documents does not change the facts of the case.

        You are also making claims without evidence or anything to back them up.

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      Unfortunately that depends on the contents of the classified documents, it could be anything from what did the president have for lunch one day to all the details one could ever want on the nation’s nuclear weapon capabilities. Even if the president technically can declassify such documents, it is not a good idea to actually do so.

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    After decades of Americans saving the world in movies I can now confidently say that they instead will just sit at home continuing their consumption until someone comes and shoots them like a dog. We jUsT NeeD tO VoTe HArdEr

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        For who? Democrats just idly sit around and get even older while republicans rape every single institution without consequences. They commited a fucking insurrection and nothing happened. Democrats had a majority for years and yet the american society and politics continue to be more fucked up. American democracy is just an illusion of freedom they allow you to have. Their two party system is the best proof for that. They will never allow you to change anything because the for profit government is working as they intended.

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          They commited a fucking insurrection and nothing happened.

          Thousands of people were put in jail. Nothing was done about Trump because Republicans blocked that and Democrats couldn’t do anything on their own. Currently nothing is being done thanks to the help of judges Trump appointed.

          There’s a huge difference in these parties. But it seems you just repeat propaganda by implying both parties are the same.

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          Vote for the best option you have. Maybe you don’t feel like the current options are great; but just suppose you keep voting for the best of your options, and that best option keeps winning. The idea is that later someone will think “maybe I can win by being even better…”. That’s the theory of democracy anyway. If the best candidate keeps winning, then the competition improves to challenge them. But right now that doesn’t seem to be happening.

          As long as someone like Trump can get even vaguely close to victory, that either means that a near-majority of Americans believe Trump is the better option, or that not enough people are voting. I think it’s probably the second one. The republican strategy has nothing to do with fielding the best candidate. Instead they rely on feeding voter apathy, anger, and doubt. They want anyone who isn’t a zealot to be uncertain about voting. That’s how they win. We’re not going to see the best candidates while that strategy is in play. And to beat the ‘don’t vote’ strategy… well, you just have to vote.

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          Ohh shit, it’s that late? Good morning over there, hope enjoying the sunrise on the first full day of Putin’s newest term.

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            Oh yes the classic “if he is criticizing the failure of american politics he must be a russian troll”. What’s next? I can’t criticize the sitting american president for funding genocide because im immediately a trump suppoerter?

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              I can’t criticize the sitting american president for funding genocide

              That comment is often made by certain people. Initially you imply “both parties are the same”, then follow-up with the genocide comment about the current president. That does repeat the usual disinformation. And it seems you’re “just asking questions” at the moment.

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              My guess is it’s less about the criticism and more about you discouraging folks from voting at all.

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              I would assume you’re a Trumpanzee if you fail to note that Donald wants Israel to “finish the job.” That Donald entered office on a campaign of racism and started his term with a Muslim ban.

              Other than that I am also dismayed with what the country is up to.

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        jUsT vOtE

        For what? No change? The status quo? I’d rather vote for America’s downfall so that the pain and terror Americans inflict overseas, is felt here in our borders.

        Americans love violence so much, why should you have peace in your streets?

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          What a psycho. Were you asleep in the WWII section or do that cover that in a later grade at your school? A fascist dictatorship will be invading foreign nations harder than it ever has. All while removing the rights and lives of minority groups domestically.

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            I mean I didn’t read or go to school either, but people tell me hands-on is the best way to learn, so why don’t we do it ourselves? ^/s

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          Because a majority of people dislike the same violence, want to see military spending reduced to pay for the things the population need. However, the best we can do to get all that it’s vote and protest and they’re making both “illegal”, or at least trying. Don’t think everyone here is a craven money leech.

          Many of us just want to live free of worry and pain, be happy with family and friends, and try to make this planet as livable, as we can for all, with the husk of a world we are left with.

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      America loves its criminals. It bends over backward for them if they’re rich.

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        No no no. This is just a very special exception to the Rules Based International Order we’ve always had.

        Normally, America is very good about prosecuting plutocrats. But this time Russia stopped us. We just have to beat Russia. Only then can we prosecute Donald Trump.