• A Cool Dude@lemmy.mlOP
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    6 months ago

    This is a Hasbara take on things. The white people from South Africa didn’t disappeared after the apartheid state got dissolved. There were Jewish people in Palestine before Israel was established. Palestinian people have never had an issue treating Jewish people as equals. The only apartheid state in the region has always been Israel.

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      6 months ago

      The white people didn’t disappear alltogether, but a lot of them did emigrate. Jewish people are kind of unique in the way that they face hostility everywhere outside Israel, so that’s not really an option for them.

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        This is not true. Many of them have emigrated back to their country of origin since October 7th, 2023. Many of them have more than one citizenship and were not even born in Israel, and many of them are new converts. The IOF has been enlisting new converts like there is no tomorrow from all over the world since October 7th. The ones who have no place to go are the Palestinians who are also currently being genocide.

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      This is a revisionist view that requires ignoring a lot of historical facts. Almost a million Jews were expelled from MENA countries in the 20th century, many of whom survived only by escaping to Israel. The Palestinian Authoriry has never accepted any status for Jews. Christians, Muslims, Druze, yes, but no Jews.

      Meanwhile, there are about 2 million Arab citizens (mostly Muslim) of Israel who are entitled to equal rights, including government subsidized Churches and Mosques.

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        Meanwhile, there are about 2 million Arab citizens (mostly Muslim) of Israel who are entitled to equal rights, including government subsidized Churches and Mosques.

        Plus Arabic being an official language, same status as Hebrew.

        People calling it an ethnostate have never been there or arguing in bad faith. It’s obvious.

        Not that any of this has to do with the current atrocities in any way. But some people can’t help themselves but to paint the country in a bad way. Which is kind of some because that’s super easy right now. Guess some people just want to go the extra mile.

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          This is horseshit. Regardless of whatever it might say on paper, the indigenous peoples obviously don’t have equal rights with the Western settlers, and the indigenous Arabic language obviously doesn’t have equal standing with the newly-resurrected Hebrew. In practice not even the indigenous Jews have equal rights with the Western settlers, nor do the Ethiopian settlers.

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        6 months ago

        Being entitled to equal rights doesn’t mean they actually get them. It also doesn’t account for the fact that many Palestinians are denied citizenship or remain in occupied territories controlled by Israel and explicitly not guaranteed equal rights

        The comprehensive report, Israel’s Apartheid against Palestinians: Cruel System of Domination and Crime against Humanity, sets out how massive seizures of Palestinian land and property, unlawful killings, forcible transfer, drastic movement restrictions, and the denial of nationality and citizenship to Palestinians are all components of a system which amounts to apartheid under international law. This system is maintained by violations which Amnesty International found to constitute apartheid as a crime against humanity, as defined in the Rome Statute and Apartheid Convention.

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