• HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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    Germany has a weird obsession with “paying back” the Jews to the point they’re willing to support them on their very own holocaust.

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      Not really. Israel just started their Holocaust, give them time, they’re still solidifying the axis with American. They aren’t the same, one led to the other in an intensely ironic way.

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      You are accurate and being 100% reasonable but this place seems to have become a campground for Jew hating pro Palestine jerk offs

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      I don’t think the Palestinians of Gaza give two shits about what Europeans did to Jews 80 years ago. All that a father burying bits and pieces of his young children who have been obliterated by an Israeli missile is concerned about, is that Israelis murdered his family and are exterminating his people.

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      2 days ago

      You are severely downplaying what happens in Gaza and to Palestinians.

      “No you can’t compare two ethnic supremacists, expansionist, genocidal regimes! One committed their genocide against Europeans and the other in the middle East!”

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      How does equating two European ethno-supremacist entities and their horrible crimes downplay what happened in the Holocaust?

      Arguably the latter lunatic European ethno-supremacist cancer entity plaguing West Asia is worse, but there are way too many similarities between the two to dismiss the idea of equating the two.

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      I see your point but you’re misinterpreting the meme. It’s saying the act of decorating the Brandenburg gate this way is the same, not the two countries.

      Both are nationalism

      Both are supporting apartheid and discrimination

      Im both cases, Germany is complicit in genocide

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        With that logic decorating the Brandenburg gate in pride flags is also kind of the same. So what’s your point?

        Also funny how you say that the countries are not the same, and then just try to explain why they are similar. At least try to get your argument straight.

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          By that logic my ass. There is no a genocidal gay supremacy ethnostate.

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          Please explain how decorating the Brandenburg gate in pride flags supports genocide.

          Be specific.

          Popcorn

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            I never made that argument. Learn to read.

            I reacted to a comment saying the meme would not want to compare nazi germany with Israel, which is obviously false as you can see by the reactions to my comment. If it wouldn’t compare the two countries, the meme would work with pride flags. But it doesn’t.

            That meme is tasteless and antisemitic, just saying.

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          2 days ago

          Ah yes, those Gay expansionist nationionalists who always go around committing genocide.

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      THIS takes the cake? Tankies defending Putin and Stalin was fine? calling everybody and everything a liberal for having a opinion was funny? But somebody notices that Germany is once again participating in genocide and THAT is where you draw the line? :D

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        Yes, because i am german. I personally don’t support Israel (neither do i support Hammas), but I am hearthbroken because of the civil deaths on both sides.

        But comparing the nazi regime that declared war on the whole world, systematically slaughtered dedicated groups of people on mass trying to erradicate them, and wreaking havoc on at least all of Europe to one of the groups they tried to slaughter is not accurate, not funny, and not adequate.

        There is no clear good side in the near-east conflict, both sides try to erradicate the other one and have done horrific things. There was a clear single villain in the second world war.

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          So true! Germany declared war on the entire world and brought destruction to Europe while carrying out a genocide! Israel only declared war on the entire middle East and destroys them while carrying out a genocide!

          You’ve traded in German supremacy for European supremacy…the same thing your government did, hence why they support European occupation and genocide of the middle East.

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          Germany’s support for Israel shows that Germany learned nothing from the tragedy of the Holocaust.

          The Holocaust teaches us that genocide and mass murder are wrong and evil. Yet modern German supports Israel in comitting genocide against Palestinians.

          There will be another memorial in Berlin 50 years from now, commemorating the Palestinians that were killed in the genocide Germany supported.

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            Germany learned plenty. They learned, for example, that by doing your atrocities in service of the hegemon you’ll be rewarded. What wasn’t okay was doing them while attempting to become the hegemon.

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          “both sides”

          One side is committing genocide.

          The other side are an oppressed people fighting for their basic human rights.

          Yes, there are civilian deaths on both sides, and that is lamentable. But to imply that it is anywhere near an equal conflict or that both sides are anywhere near equally to blame is completely ignorant of the facts.

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            Hamas wants to “annihilate the jewish race”, sorry that i CANNOT sympathise with such phrases. I know that Hamas does not represent all of the palestinian people, jsut as the netanjahu regime does not represent all jewish people. So no, both sides plan to commit genocide.

            You are all children thinking that this is a black & white conflict.

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              Not to mention that the 2023 picture of the Brandenburg Gate was a sign of solidarity with Israel in response to the October 2023 attack on Israel where Hamas gleefully abducted, raped and murdered Israeli civilians, men women and children. It doesn’t matter what you think of Israel’s treatment of Palestinians or the subsequent response to the attack, there is no world in which such an attack could ever be justified (although I’ve seen plenty of attempts to try). Comparing modern Germany showing sympathy for such an attack with the Germany that perpetrated the holocaust is absurd and, in my opinion, quite disgusting.

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      The current tactic is to exploit the anti-zionist sentiments in the fediverse as shields for pro-Russian messaging.

      Draw thich bold lines equating Russia-Ukraine/TheWest to Israel-Hamas/Iran (except make Russia the defender ofc). Be vague enough that your messaging does not allow for easy distinction between Ukraine and Israel.

      Tada! Any criticism on the pro-Russian message is now Zionism and bannable.