Even from people that never lived in a communist state

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    socialist countries are in fact socialist, not communist

    Countries that reform their private sectors in order to adopt socialist policies are pursuing communism.

    Countries that reform their socialist sectors in order to adopt privatization policies are not pursuing communism.

    Following a roadmap to some target literally means that you have not yet achieved that target.

    Right. You are implementing a policy that pursues a target.

    Whether or not they want to establish communism does not factor into it.

    “Mao wasn’t a communist in 1953 because his country hadn’t completed its first five year plan yet” is one hell of a claim.

    To claim otherwise would be akin to claiming that a company on a roadmap to profitability is already profitable

    It would be nutso to say Caryle Group isn’t interested in investing in profitable companies.

    And yet the entire strategy of growth investing is to identify companies with strong roadmaps and lend to them at higher return rates.

    So your analogy works, but not for the reason you’d expected.

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      “Mao wasn’t a communist in 1953 because his country hadn’t completed its first five year plan yet” is one hell of a claim.

      One hell of a straw man, you mean.
      At what point have I denied that people are communists?
      Mao may be a communist and follow a philosophy called communism but China has not established a social order called communism as envisioned by communists.

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        At what point have I denied that people are communists?

        socialist countries are in fact socialist, not communist

        Countries -> Large collections of People

        Not communist -> denying that these large collections of people are communist

        Mao may be a communist and follow a philosophy called communism but China has not established a social order called communism as envisioned by communists.

        Uh huh.