Even from people that never lived in a communist state

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    6 months ago

    Especially people who never lived in a communist state

    That’s a rather impossible requirement, considering that all “communist states” to date have been oligarchic autocracies that were just as much about communism as they were democratic.

    Real communism is market ownership by the people, and not some elite cabal of politicians or capitalists. And a top-down planned economy is pretty much anti-communism, as it violates the very fundamentals of communism as being worker-driven.

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      I think you should read Marx. State planning is definitely in line with Communism, the state is of the Workers and not a separate entity in Socialism and Communism.

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      I don’t spend a lot of time promoting communism, but I do talk a lot of shit about capitalism - I’ve lived in it. Of course when I criticise capitalism people accuse me of promoting communism and having never lived in it.

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      considering that all “communist states” to date have been oligarchic autocracies

      And you think that is a coincidence?

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        Considering how America is moving towards that same state, with it’s Republicans?

        No, I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Oligarchic autocracies can occur under any circumstances where a power-hungry elite manage to wrest control by using the masses as “useful idiots”. The Conservative leadership, in general, have learned this trick very well.