• heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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    14 hours ago

    I’d have ever so much more sympathy if they hadn’t just spent over a year genociding Palestine…

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      3 hours ago

      You know, the reason we have sympathy for Palestinian civilians is because they’re not responsible for the actions of Hamas on Oct 7, even if many of them were brainwashed to be happy about the massacre. Please apply the same logic to sympathizing with civilians who are not responsible for Likud’s actions, a large proportion of whom have also been protesting against the party in the past year.

      The current Israeli administration is ruthless and bloodthirsty and it’s diminishing the should of it’s people. That being said, I don’t think any major power in the world, including China and Russia are sad to see Iran’s nuclear program get set back.

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        2 hours ago

        We support Hamas, and we support its brave fight against the colonialism, we feel bad about them because we support the colonized against the colonizer, now gtfo

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          1 hour ago

          I am staunchly anti-colonization and support resistance against oppression. I also believe there are people who are innocent and who have no choice in where they’re born or where their parents move them to, who generally go about life fairly normally with all the complexity (and tacit complicity) human life and circumstance brings–civilians. I do not support what Hamas did on Oct 7 and I certainly don’t support what the IDF has done in Gaza over the last year or the ongoing settlement in the West Bank. You and I live on the same planet and I will love your right to life always, but I will not gtfo just because I disagree with unfettered self-righteous bloodlust.

    • Count042@lemmy.ml
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      5 hours ago

      Why would you have sympathy for Israel attacking without provocation a state that turned out to be stronger than they thought?

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      7 hours ago

      It’s wild hearing Americans who went on a 20 year genocidal way because they were attacked at home, cheering on others being attacked at home. Your government fucked by country and people, do I get to blow up your family and be cheered?

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        4 hours ago

        You assume I was for the 20 year genocidal war? Why? IMHO it was a huge fucking mistake too.

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        7 hours ago

        I mean, both the United States and Israel were attacked because of Israel.

        Israel deserves the blame because Israel is the problem.

        If they don’t like it, they can always leave. That would make the world a better place.

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          6 hours ago

          Americans are blood thirsty war hawks. You guys LOVE the idea of bombing someone you don’t like. Even the American left is like this now. So long as it’s not your country being bombed and getting their just desserts for al their genocide, you love war. But anyone attacks you guys for your centuries of atrocities and suddenly it’s WAR WAR WAR

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            6 hours ago

            Well, yeah.

            Supporting Israel is great for the MIC.

            (I hope I don’t have to say how I’m not one of the bloodthirsty Americans you’re referring to)