• Soleos@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    You know, the reason we have sympathy for Palestinian civilians is because they’re not responsible for the actions of Hamas on Oct 7, even if many of them were brainwashed to be happy about the massacre. Please apply the same logic to sympathizing with civilians who are not responsible for Likud’s actions, a large proportion of whom have also been protesting against the party in the past year.

    The current Israeli administration is ruthless and bloodthirsty and it’s diminishing the should of it’s people. That being said, I don’t think any major power in the world, including China and Russia are sad to see Iran’s nuclear program get set back.

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      9 hours ago

      We support Hamas, and we support its brave fight against the colonialism, we feel bad about them because we support the colonized against the colonizer, now gtfo

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        8 hours ago

        I am staunchly anti-colonization and support resistance against oppression. I also believe there are people who are innocent and who have no choice in where they’re born or where their parents move them to, who generally go about life fairly normally with all the complexity (and tacit complicity) human life and circumstance brings–civilians. I do not support what Hamas did on Oct 7 and I certainly don’t support what the IDF has done in Gaza over the last year or the ongoing settlement in the West Bank. You and I live on the same planet and I will love your right to life always, but I will not gtfo just because I disagree with unfettered self-righteous bloodlust.

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            4 hours ago

            For an instance nominally based on worker solidarity and elevating the proletariat, everyone sure is pretty quick to throw that out the window for tribalism and nationalism

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              3 hours ago

              There’s no such thing as a settler proletariat or worker, 50% of work as IDF the other 50% work as police

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                3 hours ago

                Here’s a fun fact, did you know that 65 other countries also have mandatory military service, including Iran? Being a class traitor by the law of the state doesn’t make you not proletariat.

                Abandoning massive chunks of workers based only on their place of birth or the bubble of propoganda they live in is the opposite of every reputable leftist ideology. If your empathy for the people crushed under the rubble of an apartment complex depends on the flag out front then just admit you’re a frothing nationalist and stop pretending.

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                  3 hours ago

                  Yeah, mandatory military service, not mandatory baby killer service, No such thing as a settler comrade or a settler proletariat, a motherfucker who goes into Palestinian homes kills or kicks out the occupants and takes it as his deserves to get crushed by an airstrike.

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                    2 hours ago

                    Total population of Israel: 9.2 million Total IDF personnel (including reservists): 500k Total settler population: 700k Total Isreal police force: <30k

                    But sure, let’s glass them all. Especially the 86% that have no active involvement with what’s going on. You sound like a goddamn fool.

                    Edit: let me cut off the horseshit collective punishment argument before you make it: you’re still cheering for your own class to be slaughtered