Trump’s lawyers claim they’ve found a loophole that will allow Trump to ship immigrants overseas to be tortured.
Federal law states that the United States shall not “expel, extradite, or otherwise effect the involuntary return of any person to a country in which there are substantial grounds for believing the person would be in danger of being subjected to torture.” This law implements a treaty, known as the Convention Against Torture, which the United States ratified more than three decades ago.
Federal regulations, moreover, provide that even after an immigration judge has determined that a noncitizen may be deported to another country, that judge’s order “shall not be executed in circumstances that would violate Article 3 of the United Nations Convention Against Torture.” And those regulations also establish a process that immigrants can use to raise concerns with an immigration judge that they may be tortured if sent to a specific country.
The Trump administration, however, claims it has discovered a loophole that renders all of these legal protections worthless, and is now asking the Supreme Court to explicitly give it the authority to make use of that loophole in order to enact its immigration policies.
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Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.
George Orwell, 1984
Straight up chatGPT answer. Ffs…
Fuck. I weep for the species.
literally 1984 lmao
What are you talking about?
They’re so young and TikTok brained that the only time they see three sentences strung together is because of ChatGPT.
It’s the same mindset that causes people to call every photo AI generated.
It’s almost like they’ve lost faith in human capabilities to the point of assuming humans are incapable altogether.
This is literally the same mindset that “aliens did it” conspiracy thinkers use, and I think it’s incredibly sad to see.
It’s a quote from 1984.
If you face torture or deathcamps, It’s better to go out shooting.
Pretty tough talk from the orange dude that vociferously whines about reporters asking “nasty” questions.
According to President Donald Trump’s lawyers, the administration can simply wait until after an immigration judge has conducted the proceeding that ordinarily would determine whether a particular noncitizen may be deported to a particular country, and then, if that noncitizen is allowed to be deported, announce that the immigrant will be deported to some previously unmentioned country — even if that immigrant reasonably fears they will be tortured in that nation.
Shit. That is going to work. The SCOTUS will want to suck Trumps balls a little after telling him “no” 5-6 times … to make it up to him. I bet they are going to pass this.
Haven’t they already been doing this in Guantanamo?
Yes. A lot of the Trump stuff is building on existing violations of international law that started with Bush II and were continued by each subsequent administration.
They are being forced to bring prisoners/ witnesses back to the US. They need to have their ducks in a row.
If you’re on the side of torture, you’re one of the bad guys
Can we not relitigate this. I remember this from like 18 years ago. It was not a good time.
It wasn’t taken care of then, which is why we’re dealing with it now. After all, we have to mOvE oN aNd LoOk To ThE fUtUrE iNsTeAd Of DwElLiNg On ThE pAsT.
Just what we need to put in the hands of this Orange piece of human shit.
As long as the fascist fuck gets to test it out first…
extraordinary rendition meets enhanced interrogation, I guess.
Sean Hannity still hasn’t been waterboarded for charity.
And immediately admitting he was wrong about it not being torture.
It absolutely is torture. I’ve experienced consensual waterboarding myself and even if you are doing it willingly and are mentally prepared, consenting to it - it is absolutely terrifying. Your brain screams at you, just pumps your body full of fear chemicals.
I’ve waterboarded myself trying to put a dive mask back on underwater. It is not plesant
Holy shit
Is there no evil idea these guys don’t love?
You could look at it from the perspective of the moral foundations.
- Care/harm✅
- Fairness/cheating✅
- Loyalty?/betrayal?
- Authority?/subversion?
- Sanctity?/degradation?
- Liberty/oppression✅
Only about half of these are clear to me. I think Trump needs to step up his game if he wants to get to the worst outcome possible.
Nothing wrong with a bit of subversion though, especially in politics.
It’s a matter of perspective, and the same goes for some of the other points too. It really matters what is being subverted.
Trump has a team of prople, that dedicated time, energy, and resources, to find a loophole around a ban on torture.
That sums up this administration’s direction pretty succinctly.
I agree, but there’s a difference. Trump is a figurehead. It’s not his team. Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation are the “deep state” that the right voters were convinced were controlling them through the dems. Peter Thiel, Putin, the Koch, Scaife, Uihlein, Bradley families and/or foundations, Barre Seid, Coors, Walmart, Exxon mobile, etc etc they’re all financing and guiding the hydra.
Trump goes away and Peter Thiel wormtongues Vance into doing the same shit
Totally agree with what you said. It was just easier to get a point across pointing at TrumpCo.
No way in hell he’s top dog in this shit show, just a gullible fool of hate and piss.
Gullible pool of hate, piss, and money.
I think it’s ignorant to underscore the importance of Trump. He’s made himself as irreplaceable to their plans as possible. He relies on them to work like all kings do, but without him they’ll have a much harder time keeping the coalition from cannibalizing itself.
We can only hope that the Big Macs and lack of exercise kill him quickly.
As always, the cruelty is the point
its a great distraction for the dumpy supporters, so they arnt focused on the actual things that mattered.
I can’t wait for Nuremberg 2: electric boogaloo
I’d be happy if he got his wish and then magically disappeared and we heard rumors of him being waterboarded for fun. I’d do it myself.
Not before me you don’t!
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