Not voting is a choice that inherently favors republicans due to how consistent they tend to vote. So vote or not, you’re still supporting one candidate or another.
Active support of something totally morally unacceptable seems more morally culpable than refusing to participate. I don’t think most people are consequentialists—the how matters.
You can’t scare people into supporting something they find abhorrent this time. This rhetoric is not going to work. We are talking about a fucking genocide my dude. You’re delusional if you think “but pussygrabber” is going to motivate principled people.
I’d like to bring up - a switch in democratic systems of representatives to on called “Open List Proportional Representation” where parties are represented in a proportional mix per the votes they actually won.
Germany, Scotland, and Japan use such systems. I think it’s a better system but it will probably take a loaded Supreme court and a concerted effort to get through.
It’s an election year, Biden being brought up will invoke his competitions name. And people are absolutely using just this topic as a reason to not vote this cycle. They only hurt themselves and everyone else.
You go into the Trump circles. Pinch your nose and go see. Their pitch isn’t “he isn’t biden” or “vote for Trump or you’re picking Biden.” They actively like him and want him to be president, whether we disagree with that or not thems the facts. People aren’t bringing up Trump because he’s Biden’s opposition, people are bringing up Trump because that’s what the election is about. Biden’s whole reason for viability is that he is running against Trump, that’s it, that’s all, that’s his campaign slogan and platform. “I’m not Trump”. People can stomach that when his public persona is “Barack Obama’s VP”, not so much when it’s “he gave Israel money to fund genocide.”
“So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t people get rid of the lizards?”
“It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”
“You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”
“Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”
“But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”
“Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in.”
Douglas Adam’s _The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy _
At this point I think we deserve our clusterfuck of a system. Conservatives and neoliberals have really made a mess of it all. One is malicious and the other is inadvertently enabling.
Yeah, because its unfortunately a choice between those two at this point. Until Biden is re-elected, it will be a constant reminder that its him or a fascist criminal that led an insurrection, even if a particular criticism is valid. This criticism is shit btw, antisemitism is happening and should be called out.
That’s because Biden’s entire pitch is “I’m not Trump”. Nobody actually likes him or wants him to be president, they’re just stuck with bad choices in front of them. So you talk about the merits of Biden, that’s the only one you’re going to get, because that’s all he’s got. And in the face of a genocide, people can’t stomach it.
Regardless i prefer Biden over trump and i will still vote for him. However, I’ll make my voice much louder the second term
I’m not voting for either. They both suck
Not voting is a choice that inherently favors republicans due to how consistent they tend to vote. So vote or not, you’re still supporting one candidate or another.
Active support of something totally morally unacceptable seems more morally culpable than refusing to participate. I don’t think most people are consequentialists—the how matters.
Emotionally yes, mathematically, no, exactly the same, and so morally, exactly the same
You can’t scare people into supporting something they find abhorrent this time. This rhetoric is not going to work. We are talking about a fucking genocide my dude. You’re delusional if you think “but pussygrabber” is going to motivate principled people.
That would imply the p7ssygrabber would stop the genocide. He wont. He will accelerate it.
You don’t think one sucks even a little less?
I’m proud to count myself amongst the people who didn’t vote for Biden in the primary. Now I only have to vote for him once.
Your vote is the only voice that matters
Nobody even brought up Trump, but you.
That is what is so infuriating to me is that nobody is allowed to criticize Biden at all without Trump being brought up.
I’d like to bring up - a switch in democratic systems of representatives to on called “Open List Proportional Representation” where parties are represented in a proportional mix per the votes they actually won.
Germany, Scotland, and Japan use such systems. I think it’s a better system but it will probably take a loaded Supreme court and a concerted effort to get through.
It’s an election year, Biden being brought up will invoke his competitions name. And people are absolutely using just this topic as a reason to not vote this cycle. They only hurt themselves and everyone else.
You go into the Trump circles. Pinch your nose and go see. Their pitch isn’t “he isn’t biden” or “vote for Trump or you’re picking Biden.” They actively like him and want him to be president, whether we disagree with that or not thems the facts. People aren’t bringing up Trump because he’s Biden’s opposition, people are bringing up Trump because that’s what the election is about. Biden’s whole reason for viability is that he is running against Trump, that’s it, that’s all, that’s his campaign slogan and platform. “I’m not Trump”. People can stomach that when his public persona is “Barack Obama’s VP”, not so much when it’s “he gave Israel money to fund genocide.”
You act like Biden can literally not capitulate on this. Why does the voice of the voter no longer matter?
I dont like this trend of demanding votes without having to earn voters. We are creating a culture of zero accountability to the voters.
At this point I think we deserve our clusterfuck of a system. Conservatives and neoliberals have really made a mess of it all. One is malicious and the other is inadvertently enabling.
Half the people upvoting you are exactly who Adams was making sub of. Of course you and I know that, but these people are dense.
Yeah, because its unfortunately a choice between those two at this point. Until Biden is re-elected, it will be a constant reminder that its him or a fascist criminal that led an insurrection, even if a particular criticism is valid. This criticism is shit btw, antisemitism is happening and should be called out.
That’s because Biden’s entire pitch is “I’m not Trump”. Nobody actually likes him or wants him to be president, they’re just stuck with bad choices in front of them. So you talk about the merits of Biden, that’s the only one you’re going to get, because that’s all he’s got. And in the face of a genocide, people can’t stomach it.