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Ahead of the United Nations Security Council action to consider the Palestinian Authority’s application to become a full member of the international body, the United States is lobbying nations to reject such membership, hoping to avoid an overt “veto” by Washington. The lobbying effort, revealed in copies of unclassified State Department cables obtained by The Intercept, is at odds with the Biden administration’s pledge to fully support a two-state solution.
While clarifying that President Joe Biden has worked vigorously to support “Palestinian aspirations for statehood” within the context “of a comprehensive peace that would resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,” a diplomatic cable dated April 12 details U.S. talking points against a U.N. vote for Palestinian statehood. The cable says that Security Council members must be persuaded to reject any proposal for Palestinian statehood — and thereby its recognition as a sovereign nation — before the council’s open debate on the Middle East, scheduled for April 18.
“We therefore urge you not to support any potential Security Council resolution recommending the admission of ‘Palestine’ as a U.N. member state, should such a resolution be presented to the Security Council for a decision in the coming days and weeks.”
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The diplomatic cable includes a rationale for the administration’s opposition to the vote, citing the risk of inflaming tensions, political backlash, and potentially leading to the U.S. Congress cutting U.N. funding.
“Premature actions at the UNSC, even with the best intentions, will achieve neither statehood nor self-determination for the Palestinian people. Such initiatives will instead endanger normalization efforts and drive the parties further apart, heighten the risk of violence on the ground that could claim innocent lives on both sides, and risk support for the new, reform government announced by President Abbas,” the cable says.
These reasonings are all real possibilities.
This reasoning has been going on for over 30 years. The US never wanted a Palestinian state and has been wasting time with the peace process while Israel continues stealing more lands.
Bullshit, Clinton’s Camp David summit formalized longtime US policy of a two-state solution and that has been both the official policy and working policy goal of every administration since.
longtime US policy of a two-state solution
longtime no Palestinian state yet… and wouldn’t you think that the two states in the two-state solution should be recognized? when the US is only recognizing one it is clear what scam they are trying to play and now we see how it turned out
Yeah the PA with a 90% disapproval rate and virtually the entire Palestinian population claiming that they are israeli puppets, claim that a Palestinian state would be a bad idea.
Palestinian poll shows a rise in Hamas support and close to 90% wanting US-backed Abbas to resign
This totally doesn’t reinforce the idea that the PA, which refuses to hold elections, is an israeli puppet regime trying to give away the West Bank to israel.
We should never ever do anything to help Palestinians because that might upset israelis which could do very violent things with all the guns and bombs we give them to do violent things with.
Yes. It’s fucked.
*rigged
Well, well, I did nazi that coming.
The Intercept, is at odds with the Biden administration’s pledge to fully support a two-state solution.
This isn’t true according to other sources. Of course Biden is keeping a lot on the table that we aren’t seeing.
Biden saying that he wants to do two state and Biden blocking any establishment of a two state solution is exactly what The Intercept is saying.
And looking at the current track record of Biden “drawing lines” for israel it is very clear that the words that come out of Bidens mouth are worthless because he is Zionist snake.
Both Palestine and Israel need a secular government for long term peace to be possible.
ahhaaaaaaaaaaaaa !
WHAT
Government gets money from arms manufacturers. No use for the arms, no money. Perpetuating war worldwide means more money.
It’s an extremely short-sighted view on things.
That’s also not at all what’s going on here.
Indeed. If the US government were truly dancing on the puppet strings of the arms industry right now there’d be a ton of resources heading to Ukraine.
Genocide Joe pulling a Zionist special
Yeah no shit. It was decided long ago that Palestine had to become Israel.
As South Africa showed, end of apartheid and free right of movement is the only path to peace.
There’s no need for a Palestinian state once Palestinians have full rights as citizens of Israel.
The raison d’être of israel is apartheid and racial supremacy.
Their version of a constitution firmly establishes it as a Jewish ethnostate and does not grant others the same rights.
There can be no israel with equal rights. Only a Palestine.
I mean you could say the same thing about apartheid South Africa.
A state founded on injustice will never know peace until reestablished with equal rights for all. The colonizers in power have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do the right thing.
Well yeah but they took the Apartheid out of Apartheid South Africa. They didn’t try to reform the apartheid government nor merge South Africa into it.
So they should take the Apartheid (israel) out of Palestine.
Their entire existence is anchored on the racist idea of Jews as “The Chosen People” which is straight out of the same way of thinking about people as the ultra-racist shit from the early XX century, rather than the modernist take that Jews are just like everybody else, have the same human rights as everybody else and should be treated like everybody else so how can we make sure that’s so.
There’s no need for a Israeli state once Israelis have full rights as citizens of Palestine.
Israel is the colonial settler state. Why do they get to exist and not the local population who has been invaded?
Now move back your timeline and do all of Europe. You can say what you like about the morality of it but this is how every country in existence came to be at one point in time. Conquest by military force is, and always has been, the way of the world. Of course its a shitty system but we don’t have another one.
Even a two state solution isn’t a peaceful option in the Western sense of the word. It’s just one massive military (the US) imposing its will on another nation (Israel). The only reason it works in a “peaceful” way is because the military and economic forces that can be brought to bear by both parties are so disparate. It’s not a tenable long term solution for us to play middle man. Sooner or later, and my money is on sooner, we’ll be unable or uninterested in containing the situation and then whichever group has the ability will go to work wiping the other out. It’s simply human nature. All of history attests to this fact.
That’s how it was, we can and should be doing better today not promoting it.
What’s next, you’re going to justify owning slaves because we did as well?
What exactly are you referring to when you say we can do better? I think the real world demonstrates pretty effectively that this is the best we are capable of. The fact that you wish things were different isn’t an indication that such an outcome is anything more than idealistic naivety.
Yeah, if everyone could agree to it (which is a big ask given the last 75 years), a secular single Palestine with strong protections for all religious groups would be better. Israel spent decades taking the best parts of Palestine and destroying stuff like wells and orchards in what would become the Palestinian state, so I don’t even know if a Palestinian state would even be economically viable.
