I thought the woman handing me this was going to ask for help reaching something, but she was handing this out to everyone.

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    I like how page 1 says not to wear masks because they are bad put page 2 implies that you must wear a mask because getting the vaccine won’t allow you to not wear masks.

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    Did they just photocopy a flyer that was photocopied by someone else? Because this looks like it was about 15 steps from the original printing. Also, why hand these out now?

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      Did they just photocopy a flyer that was photocopied by someone else? Because this looks like it was about 15 steps from the original printing.

      Some nutcases do things old school. Respect.

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      Reminds me of a line in Futurama:

      Fry: Over there a crazy guy used to hand out a socialist newsletter

      Bender: Was it poorly Xeroxed?

      Fry: Oh, you better believe it!

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        I once got a full color, too many graphics, tiny writing to fit it all on one full page flyer about how doritos is made with human stem cells. I’ve got it in a file somewhere because it was so weird I couldn’t throw it out. And yes, some of the graphics were of the flavoring fetuses.

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          For many years, I had what was very definitely an expensive printed tract (full color in the early 1990s) called “Is the Russian Bear Ready to Strike?” It predicted that Russia would launch a nuclear strike on the United States based on Biblical prophecy. My favorite part was where they tied it into the Biblical tribes of Gog and Magog by saying that Gorbachev’s name was actually Gogrbachev. Since this was in 1990 or 1991 and the Soviet Union collapsed in 1992 and Gorbachev (Gogrbachev?) died two years ago, I think their prophecy might have been a little off.

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      Sounds about right for these folks. Anytime you see an email like this it’s always FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: the Illuminati KILLED MY DOG with COVID masks!

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    very blatantly, right in front of her, wipe your hands with sanitizer and then wipe down the flyer …

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        When that stupid PSA warning came through that people said would “activate” the vaccine I was in my MAGAt infested office. I fell to the floor and screamed “The vaccine!” as soon as I heard everyone’s phones go off.

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    I mean, that survey on the back isn’t lying, per se, but it’s taking things that are only minorly concerning and stating them in a way that is overblown or more alarming than they deserve.

    “The best lies are based in truth”, I suppose.

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      What? Starting with the first one, thats already a lie. So is the third, they just don’t understand what long-term means.

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        A couple of them fall into the “technically true, but misleading territory” - I’m sure the person handing this out couldn’t identify which though - broken clock right twice a day and all

        “Can you reverse effects” - no you can’t make your immune system forget how to work. Probably not what they are going for here though.

        “Risk of […] or other side effects?” - yeah the vaccines generally give people a headache and short lived fever symptoms

        “Have there been deaths?” - The astrazeneca vaccine had like a 0.000001% mortality risk (more likely to die driving to the pharmacy), and was pulled in many countries because that was deemed too dangerous. Person handing out the flyer has likely been parroting “mRNA vaccines cause blood clots” nonsense for years while being completely unaware that AZ was a traditional viral vector vaccine

        “Are there doctors recommending NOT taking it” - yeah, there are many notable anti-vaccine doctors, what they typically have in common is they earned their doctorate in computer science, social studies, or some other field that gives them no qualifications to talk about immunology

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          I hate this type of stuff because it will work of off something like. masks impeded airflow. well yeah. thats the point. but you would have to be extrememly frail for it to effect you. Like on the level where you need supplementary oxygen even without a mask or just shy.

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          Wasn’t the immunity against covid relatively short-lived? I remember something about even getting covid not building long-term resistance, so that would mean that even the vaccine did reverse its effect at some point.

          What I absolutely despise, and my own friend brought up in an online conversation, was the abortion embryos.

          He claimed abortion clinics everywhere were a conspiracy to harvest matter for the vaccines, all government controlled.

          After nagging him a lot, he provided a link from which he wanted to prove his claim.

          Surprise surprise, the journalistic piece only said there were cells used to develop the vaccine, mostly for testing, from a single embryo from like 1970s.

          We are both from Europe btw.

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    It would annoy me just as much to receive pro vaccine propaganda. Even the vaccine commercials annoy me.

    I don’t get it

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          You shouldn’t force vaccines on people.

          “Good morning, sir. Would you care for this informational flyer about why you should get vaccinated?”

          DON’T YOU FORCE YOUR VACCINES ON ME!

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            It should be up to the parent. With that being said, parents need to be given information about vaccines and what is recommended.

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              First you said you didn’t want to receive “pro vaccine propaganda” and now you’re saying parents need to be given information about vaccines.

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              Then it is up to the government to prevent that disease bag from ruining society by preventing them from participating.

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          You’d have a point if the disease wasn’t contagious.

          Now, your opinion is hurting others. And it is the governments job prevent the public dying.

          If you don’t want to be vaccinated, don’t participate in a society.

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              I just want to visit a major theme park without getting measles. Or get an education without getting a once-defeated debilitating disease.

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                Me too but I don’t think it is ethical or right to force treatment on those who don’t want to be treated.

                Just remind your relatives to get vaccinated. You technically could even tell them that you want them to get vaccinated become coming to a family get together but you will not have any way to prove it as they aren’t going to share there medical records.

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              Then the government has the right to say no to you participating in their society.

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              And I bet you just want the right to decide which traffic laws to follow. Or which taxes to pay.

              Go live on an isolated island if you don’t want to integrate with society.

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                I do get to choose what laws to obey. In the case of traffic laws you have to get busted by the police.

                Also traffic laws are a little different than metrical tech. I want to be able to opt out if I feel something is not for me. Same thing with goverment technology that tracks are collects my data.

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                  Nah, you don’t.

                  If you murder someone, you can’t go around claiming you don’t participate the law preventing murder.

                  And let that be exactly what the anti-vaxxers are doing when spreading a deadly disease.

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    Why is it in English but funded by some Spanish speaking organization

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      To make it seem like legitimate. “These other doctors in other countries are speaking out about it, while the establishment in this country is suppressing the “truth””

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        Yeah, but just based on my own prejudices, the antivax community ain’t a huge fan of the Spanish- speaking community.

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          You’d be surprised what they’ll accept as evidence once they find out its coming from “one of the good ones”.

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    There’s some loon still plastering their ill informed, anti Vax / anti mask stickers on every bit of street furniture across the nearby town centre.

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    I would say some unfiltered shit at any moron that handed me something like this. It would probably be exactly what they want, but I would belittle them with every fiber of my being in the hopes that something sticks and they feel bad. It would make me feel a little better, but I am also a big man child sometimes.

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    Have they been subject to medium to long term safety testing on humans?

    Yes. For over two years now. Using a population of hundreds of millions of people and a control population of people who xerox misinformation and hand it out to strangers in grocery stores.

    News flash: the vaccinated ones are doing way better.

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      Using a population of hundreds of millions billions

      Billions of people were vaccinated. Hardly anything happened.

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        Did billions of people end up getting the mRNA vaccine? I thought the traditional vaccine was more widely deployed outside the United States.

        In any case, the objection is nonsense. On populations this large, the number of side effects was slightly less than might have been expected at the outset. The researchers did good work.

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        I remember being told everyone vaccinated would be dead within six months.

        It’s been a very long six months.

        Similarly, I don’t hear climate change deniers talking about the solar cycle anymore…

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          My own mother told me shit like this. Also “they” will turn off the electricity, internet, water,… omg

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        For vaccines in general, yes. But kooky people that think this is some kind of trick are worried about it being an mRNA vaccine, which is indeed somewhat new. The idea has been around for about fifty years, but the first human clinical trials were only about a decade ago and COVID was the first large-scale human deployment.

        Now, in fairness, they were almost entirely ready at the time. I would imagine, without COVID, we probably would’ve still seen mRNA vaccines become mainstream already, though maybe last year or this year instead of in 2021. But COVID stepped up the final stages of approval significantly.

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      As an addendum, the idea that a vaccine can produce side effects years down the line is a myth. A vaccine is a one-time payload - if any side effects are going to crop up, they will inevitably be in the few weeks following vaccination as your body processes it. After that, if nothing has gone awry, you’re good.

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          I often think back and wonder about the 5G = COVID people on Twitter and r/conspiracy. Where are they now? Do they even feel in the slightest bit silly? Were they even real? So very many questions.

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        As an addendum addendum, I have some news for people worried about long-term effects of encountering only the spike proteins: you’re really going to hate the long-term effects from taking that virus raw.

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          As an addendum addendum addendum, most of those people who talk about spike proteins don’t know what spike proteins are. Or even just proteins.

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            As an addendum addendum addendum addendum, buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo.

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      If I handed it back to her, it would have ended up in someone else’s hands. Figured I could trash it on her behalf.

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      Don’t hand it back; rip it up and then apologize and ask for a second one. Then rip that one up, too.