• Vanth@reddthat.com
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    When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is “Mr. LastName.” (“President LastName” or “Mr. President” are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, it’s appropriate to say, “former President LastName.”

    Emily Post etiquette resource

    That’s the formal one we’ll see in the news media most of the time. IRL, it’s just last names. “Is Obama still podcasting?” “What’s going on with Trump’s trials”. “Biden’s dog bit another person”.

  • TheBananaKing@lemmy.world
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    :stares in Australian:

    We don’t address people by their job title here, and we’d laugh in your face if you insisted on it.

    Perhaps a small exception for ‘doctor’, but that’s acknowledging the doctorate, not the job.

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      We do, but only for the current PM. Once you’re out though, it’s back to Mr / Ms

      • TheBananaKing@lemmy.world
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        If you think the words ‘prime minister Morrison’ would ever have passed my lips…

        … or ‘prime minister Albo’ for that matter, they’re all overgrown fucking real estate agents.

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      I find using doctor without a medical degree to be, I dunno, crass. Its the old. IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE. Im a doctor. thank god can you help this man. of philosophy.

      • gerbler@lemmy.world
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        Eh, you earn the title by doing your thesis and expanding humanity’s sphere of knowledge a little bit. Medical doctors may claim it but they don’t get exclusive rights to it just because they want it.

    • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
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      Yet the idea underpinning it is sound. It’s to separate the office from the individual. If you attach reverence to the role, not the person, you make it easier to change the person and avoid dictatorship.

      • TheBananaKing@lemmy.world
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        It doesn’t read that way to me - I see it far more as “you have won at life, you are better than other humans”, exactly the kind of thing narcissists crave.

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    I know it’s not “correct” but I would just call them Mr/Mrs, they aren’t president any more.

  • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
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    Emily Post says:

    When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is “Mr. LastName.” (“President LastName” or “Mr. President” are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, it’s appropriate to say, “former President LastName.” This holds for introductions, as well: A current state governor is introduced as “Governor Tom Smith,” while you’d introduce an ex-governor as “former Governor Jim Bell.”

    • theherk@lemmy.world
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      And from an embassy’s official page:

      Addressing Former Presidents

      When sending letters to former Presidents, the proper form for addressing the envelope is: The Honorable (President’s name)

      The proper form for the salutation in the letter is: Dear Mr. (President’s last name)

      But I vaguely remember military training suggesting that using President Name was a correct term when referring to former presidents. Possibly not though, and I didn’t work in protocol, so the state department seems like a pretty good resource.

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        It reads to me like they’re just avoiding repeating “former” over and over. It’s already established it’s the former president earlier in the text.

  • HubertManne@kbin.social
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    depends. normally “former president X”, but if they have been impeached then you say “IMPEACHED former president X” unless they lost the popular vote then its “UNPOPULAR IMPEACHED former president X” unless they lost an election like a one termer then its “ONE TERM LOSER UNPOPULAR IMPEACHED former president X”. Its important to be accurate.

  • Yeather@lemmy.ca
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    Mister President, President ___, or Mr. ___ all work. The Honorable ___ also works but is less common.