• HubertManne@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    depends. normally “former president X”, but if they have been impeached then you say “IMPEACHED former president X” unless they lost the popular vote then its “UNPOPULAR IMPEACHED former president X” unless they lost an election like a one termer then its “ONE TERM LOSER UNPOPULAR IMPEACHED former president X”. Its important to be accurate.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
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    Depends on the president. The current one I’d go with “heya Joe” but the former one I’d go with “hey jackass.”

  • jqubed@lemmy.world
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    IIRC customarily a former president of the United States of America is still addressed as, “Mr. President.” In written form such as a news article I think it would be “former-president Clinton” or “former-president George H. W. Bush” if you need to distinguish between two presidents with the same last name, and subsequent references would be to “Mr. Clinton” or “Mr. Bush” as long as there’s no ambiguity, but I would defer to whatever style guide applies to your writing. I’m pretty sure that’s covered in the AP Stylebook and that’s as good an authority as any for US English. I have an old copy somewhere but it’s not easily accessible right now.

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    7 months ago

    I believe “Cunt” applies to the last one. Mr or President, take your pick.

  • thesmokingman@programming.dev
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    Depends on the context and how conservative you are (in the sense of tradition for tradition, not politics or anything else). Tradition holds that you call someone at that level of elected office by their previous title. If you want to break with tradition, you can call them whatever you want. You didn’t sign any legally binding agreements that say you have to call someone a fancy title. This holds for judges, doctors, and other people that think random chance and living their life gives them a special name that you don’t get.

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    Traditionally it should be a kick to the groin but in these less formal times a middle finger or simple “fuck off” is perfectly acceptable.

  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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    However they wish to be addressed. Nothing in properness or etiquette is necessarily objective. If I was president, I’d let you use my actual name.

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    7 months ago

    :stares in Australian:

    We don’t address people by their job title here, and we’d laugh in your face if you insisted on it.

    Perhaps a small exception for ‘doctor’, but that’s acknowledging the doctorate, not the job.

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      I find using doctor without a medical degree to be, I dunno, crass. Its the old. IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE. Im a doctor. thank god can you help this man. of philosophy.

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        Eh, you earn the title by doing your thesis and expanding humanity’s sphere of knowledge a little bit. Medical doctors may claim it but they don’t get exclusive rights to it just because they want it.

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      Yet the idea underpinning it is sound. It’s to separate the office from the individual. If you attach reverence to the role, not the person, you make it easier to change the person and avoid dictatorship.

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        It doesn’t read that way to me - I see it far more as “you have won at life, you are better than other humans”, exactly the kind of thing narcissists crave.

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      We do, but only for the current PM. Once you’re out though, it’s back to Mr / Ms

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        If you think the words ‘prime minister Morrison’ would ever have passed my lips…

        … or ‘prime minister Albo’ for that matter, they’re all overgrown fucking real estate agents.