I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
The infuriating part is people willing to use Facebook at all.
And Facebook marketplace and buy nothing are helpful. We need to get people off that crappy platform.
Craigslist still exists, I use it fairly often.
I have a store in a small town that ONLY communicates though the book of faces. It is frustrating to say the least, but it seems like people on facebook assume that everyone is on facebook and the things on facebook are reflective of reality (they are not).
To confirm your identity…
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don’t distinguish your marks from your players, there’s no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this and in fact I do
~ Mitch Hedberg
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn’t been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
Their point still stands - the bots need to know who to target to generate revenue, otherwise they waste your money.
There is a big difference between bots you control and use for you own gain, and bots that someone else owns and uses for their gain
Can’t really be a bit of both because they can’t confirm shit if they don’t know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don’t already have an account) but they can’t confirm your “identity”.
It’s deff KYC bullshit first and fore most. Training data is a cherry
Kyc requirements are for banks
Yeah banks and other financial institutions are elegally madated to do it.
Social media does it for “fun”
this is not a kyc requirement imposed on facebook based on laws, but by facebook based on their ToS.
Would signing up with a PC instead of the mobile app solve that? A lot of PC’s don’t have webcams.
This might help, I made my last account a few months back and only had to provide a selfie photo (which I got from here)
Lol genius!
Glad I kept my last burner account
Removed by mod
I’ve reported so many fake accounts and accounts promoting right wing violence or blatant racism and every single time they send a report back saying the account/comment doesn’t violate any rules.
Removed by mod
That’s on you for using facebook to upload and store pictures. You learned an important lesson that day.
Youtube also does this
This is the reason i haven’t delete my facebook, my pre-massively-enshittified account doesn’t need to go through any of this shit.
Yeah, I regret deleting my old account now. I never used it except for marketplace. Now I’m realizing Craigslist is pretty much dead in comparison
I don’t regret deleting mine. I don’t need any of that shit, fuck ’em.
I made an account over decade ago, never really used it even back then because I was suspicious even then. Then i tried logging in years after that and they demanded passport or some other identification to even let me log in.
So i sent them a picture i drew myself, i would post it here but i dont think i have the file anymore. It was basically like a mockup passport with picture of a clown and a stamp with picture of middle finger. I hoped they would just ban my account or something since that is about best I can hope. They would never abide by gdpr request and even if they say they did there is no way to know if they actually did.
I’m in the same boat. I have leftover PC parts to offload and Craigslist is shit and the Nextdoor app doesn’t have as much reach from what I can see.
I recently deleted it since my friends finally decided to move on from messenger to… Instagram.
Progress is progress right? Anyway I’m not planning on ever using the marketplace so hopefully I will never need an account again.
that’s not progress, it is trend. in zero ways it is better.
it’s progress in the way that it’s not on a dead platform anymore and I need one less social media account
I cant comment on dead platform, but did you register on instagram for this reason, or was that an old account? in the former case you don’t have one less accounts. but then one could also argue whether deleting one meta service account and registering another makes a difference
It’s funny because I created an IG a year or so ago and I don’t recall it asking these questions.
Edit: don’t ask me questions that require logging in as I don’t know my password
Ig and fb is kinda separated iirc, even when it all fall under Meta. So does Thread.
Fuck that shit.
Maybe all a friend for help? That’s my strategy and I have an active account. I just didn’t want to look at it
Yeah, that’s a good idea. Thanks.
Instead of sacrificing your friend’s face to Facebook, you can sacrifice an AI-generated face. I commented above:
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
Me too, but it has nothing to do with Facebook. Don’t kink shame me.
How about putting googly eyes on your nuts and making a video selfie of them to send Facebook?
🏀🍆👀⚽
that might actually get him verified
I think I will steal your wording for future use.
Have you ever had a Facebook account?
Nope. Managed to stay off of it for my entire life so far. Reason for it was that back in '05 or a bit later one of the very first things I learned about the nascent Facebook, was Zuck’s famous “Dumb fucks” remark about his early users. I rightfully concluded that someone with such a mindset would be an absolutely plague on mankind and I would never willingly help them in any way, no matter how insignificant.
What socials have you had then?
Reddit until two years ago, and now Lemmy. That’s honestly it.
Fair enough, I honestly applaud you for that, because you’ve managed to avoid the data sucking machine of meta and its services
Same for me. I never understood what motivated that content and, by extension, why I should care about consuming it.
Ooo you had a cheeseburger tonight! IDGAF.
Some witty political insights! Fuck off.
Your child was born! Wonderful, send an email or an announcement card in the mail.
Large scale emergency! I’m going to a reputable news source; I don’t need user-curated echo chambers.
Old friends and acquaintances catching up? I’ve had the same cell phone number for 25 years. If they wanted to reach out, they can refer to the phone number I wrote in the yearbook.
It’s just dumb.
Even if you don’t have a facebook account, you’ve got a facebook account.
I had one many years ago because my wife talked me i to it and ‘deleted’ it due to not using it after a couple years because it was showing me other things than just my contacts even back then. It was mostly a way to see my hogh school acquaintences and childhood friends who moved far away were still alive.
The superficial connections were fine, but not engaging like nearby friends. I have one friend who does post there and sometimes forgets to put it elsewhere, but my wife lets me know when he does.
Note: I put ‘deleted’ because there is zero chance they deleted anything other than the ability to log in.
I left FB before the pandemic and don’t regret it. When I still had an account, I had to verify my account by sending them my DL. I did it but blanked out my address and DL #. That was invasive enough. This is just insane.
deleted by creator
I’m not sure there’s any way you could make a computer work that non-technical people would question, at this point.
deleted by creator
No. Common sense has been replaced by the constant normalization of tracking and personalized ads.
This just isn’t a problem for most people. They have different priorities or just don’t bother.
“Oh no, now there’s a video of my face somewhere”
I’m not trying to be hurtful towards you, but I guess I’m pushing back in a general sense and you’re the comment I’m replying to.
At this point, it’s 2025… Every single thing about you including 3D models of your face is in a computer somewhere.
Look at the Luigi situation. Police tipped accidentally that they have advanced AI they’ve been using for a decade that we didn’t even know about.
I’m kind of saying guys… like yeah on paper not a good idea to upload your video… But when you critically examine it, what has harmed you? Nothing, your face is everywhere. If you have walked outside one time, your face is on 100 video cameras. And it’s never being deleted from their server.
Look at the Luigi situation. Police tipped accidentally that they have advanced AI they’ve been using for a decade that we didn’t even know about.
Except that’s not what did it, and I suspect any such thing is shitty corporate bloatware. In the end, distinctive eyebrows and a good-old-fashioned snitch did him in. He wasn’t anywhere close to the radar before that.
Privacy defeatism was already fully going in the days of MySpace. That should tell you a bit about how empirical it ever was.
Oh HELL no
I used to do gig work online. Everything was fine for two years, then they suddenly required the same shit for identity verification, so I quit.
What’s the point when the intent is to make most users on there AI bots anyways
