• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    It’s wild how Lemmy gamers and others treat Steam as if it’s a noble corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire so he can’t possibly be bad. The fact that he’s a billionaire is proof that he underpaid and stole from everyone below him. There are no good billionaires, and Gabe is not your friend

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      2 months ago

      it’s almost as if there may be room for something in between love and hate, black and white, good and evil

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      Yes but to be fair it wouldn’t be hard to find someone that felt that they were more exploited by Valve then by the likes of EA or Epic

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      The fact that he is a billionaire does not mean that lol. He’s a billionaire because his company gets a cut of every sale of games on his platform, and his platform is the industry standard/default platform for digital distribution. He could be paying his employees a million a year to be a janitor and he’d still be a billionaire, no “stealing” and not one being underpaid.

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        Stop defending billionaires, they don’t care about you. Great example he don’t care about us? He is anti union and refuses to let his employees unionize to ask for better conditions. They’re also raking in money on all these games that are also being made on the backs and labor of underpaid workers

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          Stop defending billionaires, they don’t care about you.

          I’m not “defending billionaires”, I’m correcting misinformation and rubbish. Of course Gabe doesn’t care about us, I never said he did.

          Just because he is a billionaire doesn’t mean that he exploited, underpaid, or stole from anyone. He’s a billionaire because he created the only fish in a huge pond that everyone throws money into hand over fist. Like I said, he could be paying everyone there a million dollars a year and he’d still be a billionaire because he OWNS the company. It’s not a publicly traded company, it’s private. He owns it.

          They’re also raking in money on all these games that are also being made on the backs and labor of underpaid workers

          That’s got nothing to do with him. He built a marketplace and tools for people to distribute and use in their games. The working conditions of people making the games that are then sold on his marketplace has nothing to do with him.

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      I mean, it’s hard to hate on someone who pays his people well, gives fun benefits, cultivates chill working culture and is overall simply a chill guy and whose big, fat marketshare comes from actually working for the customer.

      Yeah. He could probably pay better or give more of his wealth into the society. Hell, prolly even should. But the fact is that among anyone else with that title, Gabe looks like a goddamn saint.

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        He could direct his company to stop targeting kids with addictive gambling mechanics and looking the other way regarding grey-market resellers.

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          Valve doesn’t make money from keys on the grey market. Only on games bought through Steam, what do you want them to do?

          Valve are the pioneers of lootboxes. No denying that.

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          First of all, admittedly, watched half of it. But also I don’t see the point. Yeah, they have problems coming from their structure, but these seem kinda miniscule compared to any other game company. I mean come on, people looking up to more experienced colleagues for advice was shown there as a problem “because they have more to say”. Or the bias in hiring…that even ex employees seem to understand that it simply happened due to their requirements about experience and such. The video was informative, but…pretty much shortly after mentioning what they aim for when hiring, one could easily foresee most of consequences.

          Although damn, the pressure with these must feel enormous. And also…they really seem to say a lot of it up front so where’s problem?

      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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        He’s anti union, valve employees aren’t allowed to unionize. Also seems cool with making money off all the games made by studios who are also underpaying and over working employees

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      The fact that you wrote this with just vibes makes me love Gabe that much more. I’m finding that the best past in life is to reject whatever the fuck you all are selling since you’re all so out of touch with reality.

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    There are many reasons why I would take this over others. Many of those reasons have been pointed out in this thread. However there are many reasons why I say no. One small reason that will happen every year among many is will it have wifi 9?

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      Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that the guy is just another libertarian billionaire, he just happens to be in charge of a company that made a product people love enough to give them monopolistic powers.

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        You’re not wrong, the downvoters are just sad because you are right. Just takes one personality shift from Gabe to turn him from beloved figurehead to shitty billionaire and being reminded of that sucks.

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          “one personality shift”

          That’s everyone dude. “Bernie Sanders is one personality shift away from being a Maga tech bro.”

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            Sanders doesn’t have control over (probably) thousands of the games you “own” or, if we’re honest, the PC gaming market as a whole.

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          Pretty sure Musk has had a significant shift. Not saying he started out as a nice normal guy, but something cracked for sure.

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            We also spend dramatically more now as well and are on an unsustainable path according to the Fed.

            People want more spending and less taxes though, as its human nature.

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          If you just pay attention more than the average person you quickly realize that he’s already a shitty billionaire.

          Steam underage gambling profits him directly.

          He owns a yacht collection while his clients can’t afford to own the place they live in. How’s that for an environmental impact?

          His reaction to George Floyd wasn’t that Valve should release a statement at he considered that problematic, instead he gave each employee 10k to spend however they felt like. Where I used to work we used to call that a “shut the fuck up”. Employees are complaining about something? Here’s 10k each for them to shut the fuck up. Hell, they could spend that money to finance far right groups if they wanted, Newell didn’t care!

          Valve takes a 30% cut but Newell is a billionaire, which means they could afford to take a much smaller cut, he could have hundreds of millions instead and the devs could have more money in their pockets.

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            I always get shat on for saying they do unregulated gambling, including to minors

            People be really defending Valve

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                Eh, probably. They always state how competitors do this and that, and all the good Valve brought with Steam.

                Which is true, but they’re blinded by this. Google also brought a lot of good, and bad.

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              People be really defending Valve

              They defend Microsoft and Windows for the same reason. It’s their beloved gaming platform

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          I think despite the claims that Gabe is a Libertarian, first spread by some blogger named Yanis V(?), are floating around the internet: he rarely makes a political statement but did endorse Joe Biden over Trump lending to the idea that he is NOT some sort of anarcho-syndicalist Republican-lite.

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        I’m not even sure if it’s love. When something is all you’ve known, you just view everything else as strange and inferior. When you have so many games and have had so many experiences on Steam, the cognitive dissonance of accepting that Valve is quite problematic could be hard to bear. Knowing that everybody around you praises Steam, with many turning to rage or even harassment when they see competitors like Epic, the fear of being ostracized and ending up in the same position as those competitors is also a strong factor at play.

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      As someone losing control of their hands and enjoys playing video games, I very much look forward to this technology not only being available via Elon Musk.

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        And I see that but a game developer is not the right type of business to develop these kind of extremely intrusive and potentially dangerous accessibility devices. We need much stricter guidelines and oversight for this kind of tech before they essentially become a remote control for parts of our brain.

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    Ohh…eh.

    2019 left me with the impression Starfish was wireless.

    Sticking stuff into my brain isn’t on my to-do list.

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        That’s fine and might be beneficial medically one day, but I was under the impression Gabe was also interested in using this tech for VR/AR too eventually.

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    The fact that most people would obviously never want to get a brain chip implant, combined with the fact that multiple billionaires are developing brain chip implants, indicates that there are plans in some circles to incentivize or coerce people into getting a brain chip implant at some point in the future.

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      Medicine in the US is very expensive. There is a lot of money in helping with neurological conditions or paralysis.

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      It’s risk/reward. If brain chips made me twice as productive or intelligent, I’d probably tolerate a lot more risk than if it was just a way to check my Instagram notifications without pulling out my phone.

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        Productive or intelligent for whose benefit? If it’s so that you can perform better under wage labor conditions, that’s coercion.

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            Well then hell yea, it’s likely you won’t be coerced into it’s use. Though sticking to my original prediction, that means you won’t be the demographic it gets marketed to or pushed upon.

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      They’ve existed for awhile for people with certain disabilities and further advancements in the field would be great for the people who actually need them, but outside of that niche most people would likely not want to risk a highly invasive surgery and I don’t think they actually care about them.

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      What if you were going to die but you could live indefinitely if you got the implant? Would an incentive like that interest you?