Abstaining knowing the US will vote no is also voting no.
Germany has truly lost its way not siding with its broskis USA and Turkey
That resolution probably broke Deutschland’s brain, because although it was a resolution against glorifying nazism, it was also against other forms of discrimination, which they’re cool with.
0·1 个月前Ukraine is Türkiye???
Fuck I got double vision
UN General Assembly resolution on “combatting the glorificarion of Nazism, neo-Nazism […] Contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and memes made with mematic”
The end says 'related intolerance." ’
Always the same map.
Having a metropolis is not exempt from being under oppression.
Would you show pictures of skyscrapers in the middle east to compare its human rights?
Because the people living in the many apartment towers in the top image aren’t being targeted in a literal Final Solution supported by the exact same powers that cry crocodile tears over made-up claims of “genocide in Xinjiang”.
Also the Uyghurs living in Xinjiang are Chinese citizens.
Death to ameriKKKa, Death to piSSrael
The accusation wasn’t human rights abuses, the accusation was genocide.
The propaganda trick here is to throw out a henious story, completely fail to back it up with evidence, then gradually retreat to a far less damning accusation that’s essentially impossible to disprove. The smear sticks with most people and you then see how much of the lie you can get away with depending on the crowd.
Most Marxist-Leninists are skeptical of the Uyghur genocide narrative because the scant evidence we’re given comes from spurious sources like Adrian Zenz and an Australian weapons makers think tank called the ASPI. We’re also well-versed in the American empire’s history of hurling manufactured atrocity propaganda at its geopolitical rivals.
Ignore the photographs of Xinjiang and Gaza. Just look at the maps to the left. They show that the only countries against China on the Uyghur issue are the exact same colonizing countries which are trying to subjugate the Global South on every other issue. We think this isn’t a coincidence.
Under oppression of what? Of CIA-backed terrorist attacks being suppressed? Oh the huge manatee.
That map shows the US and Türkiye as red.
Ukraine is Türkiye???
idea: convince Turks that Ukraine is actually turkey and make them go to war with russia
Considering how many times in the past Turkey lost to Russia i think they would at least doublecheck this lol
that’s ukraine.
Canada abstained? What the fuck, hosers?
Edit: wait all/most of Europe as well? WTF
Canada has a large diaspora of Ukrainian Nazi sympathizers. They famously gave a Ukrainian Nazi a standing ovation in parliament.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/canada-speaker-apologizes-ukraine-nazi-veteran-honored-rcna117125
lmao I’m jealous at how easy the Russian propagandists have it sometimes
If you read the resolution and the answers of national governments why they abstained, the answer is found in points 4 and 14 of the resolution, where everyone who fought against the anti-Hitler coalition is condemned and equivocated with nazi-sympathisers. This does include people who opportunistically fought againt the Red Army in the baltic states and Ukraine for national liberation from the USSR, but not necessarily on the german side.
Yes, some of those “national liberation fighters” were absolute shitbag nazi scum, but not all of them were and history is generally more complex than just good and bad.
There was a movement to restrict those two points to language that does not automatically include these anti-soviet forces among the ranks of the nazis, but the changes were not adopted.
Some politicians posit the hypothesis that the resolution was worded in such a way through russian string pulling, because they wanted to be able to paint every anti-russian fighter in the time of the second world war as pro-Hitler.
Yes, some of those “national liberation fighters” were absolute shitbag nazi scum, but not all
If you are fighting against the Allies alongside “shitbag Nazi scum,” you are a Nazi sympathizer.
The vast majority of the world sees this clearly.
Australia as well… I guess it’s white peoples’ fault after all.
Because it’s a Russian sponsored resolution.
Because they’re US puppets
Got a source for that?
Nope, but it’s pretty obvious if Ukraine was one of the only two countries to vote against.
And another guy, who’s actually read it, pointed out that it equates tearing down soviet monuments with Nazism.
As a Canadian, Canada has way more Nazis than people realize and the broader government tends pretend we don’t have a Nazi problem while certain politicians are full on embracing them (just look at Danielle Smith). It’s not as bad as in the US, but that’s a really low bar and isn’t exactly praiseworthy.
It’s amazing how Canada giving a standing ovation to a literal SS member has been so quickly memory holed.
I think the Right has a significant enough presence over here as to encourage our leadership to tread with care, lest they upset someone. It’s not good.
From the US response:
That said, the United States continues to oppose the Russian Federation’s manipulation of the UN system to spread disinformation. This resolution is a glaring example by Russia to further its contemporary geopolitical aims by invoking the Holocaust and the Second World War to malign countries that rightfully reject celebration of their years of brutal domination by the Soviet Union. This is all the more egregious now when Russia seeks to use a false accusation of Nazism to try to justify its unconscionable ongoing brutality against the people of Ukraine. The Russian Federation’s resolution is not a serious effort to combat Nazism, antisemitism, racism, or xenophobia – all of which are abhorrent and unacceptable. On the contrary, Russia’s attempts to instrumentalize the history of the Holocaust and the Second World War to justify Russia’s aggression is an affront to Holocaust victims and to all who fought against Nazism. This resolution is a shameful political ploy. It is a thinly veiled effort to justify Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine.
Seems like this was just Russian apologia to support their invasion of the Ukraine. Voting against doesn’t seem unreasonable in that context.
This is all the more egregious now when Russia seeks to use a false accusation of Nazism to try to justify its unconscionable ongoing brutality against the people of Ukraine.
- Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
- Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
- Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
- NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
- History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
What? You mean there is not a single country without Nazis? Oh the heavens. Nazi groups im Ukraine are still an issue (as they are everywhere) but maybe something happened that was more important. Don’t know what though.
Usa coup, 2014
You will notice that all of these stories are after 2014 though. The fascist movements was formed quite rapidly, but it was still in response to aggression by the Russian government and military. These new fascists (Azov batallion a prime example ) were/are made up of Russian speakers from eastern Ukraine!! Not the stereotypical russophobes from lviv.
Gee I wonder what actions of the Russian military or their “polite people” in eastern Ukraine might have led to this??
The Banderite fascists didn’t suddenly spring into existence at the moment of their 2014 coup. They go all the way back to the 1930s.
ukrainian nationalism (including its heinous forms) goes at least as far back as the russian revolution/civil war, and ideologically originated in late 19th century. but again, it was developed in response to the no less vicious russian imperialism
Damn, all of south america, africa, and asia are russian bots now. /s
When your support for a country is so blind and unconditional that you can support genocide.
UN Convention on the Rights of the Child
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child
Which Country is the Greatest Threat to Peace? (Gallup, 2018)
UN Convention on the Rights of the Child
Fun fact: The US votes against that one because it prohibits giving the death penalty to minors.
Yeah.
Hey hey, it’s not JUST about that!
It’s also because it classifies child marriage as abuse. You can still get married to or marry off your child as young as 12 in some states.
I mean it’s not surprising in the least, well maybe that they do go into such technicalities while killing millions of children around the world.
Ukrainians viewing the US only to be used by them to fight a proxy war is sad to see.
Is that an Egyptian flag on France ?
Whoops, thanks, that makes more sense
Italy beefing with Afghanistan in 2018, smh even America had moved on
Pakistan pulling a “I don’t think about you at all”
For a decade, Russia has submitted a text denouncing the ‘glorification of Nazism’
In the context of the war in Ukraine – and with Russia justifying its invasion, which began on 24 February, by the desire to “denazify” the country – many states that had previously abstained decided to vote against the resolution
In its explanation of the vote, the European Union recalled that it had been advocating “for years that the fight against extremism and the condemnation of the despicable ideology of Nazism must not be misused and co-opted for politically motivated purposes that seek to excuse new violations and abuses of human rights.”
According to the press release published on the UN website, Ukraine called this text hypocritical believing that, contrary to its title, it was a pretext used by Russia to justify its brutal war against its country and the despicable crimes committed against humanity.
The countries opposing the resolution emphasize at every turn that they do not in any way condone the Third Reich. “We reaffirm our strongest condemnation of all forms of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices fueling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance,” Ukraine insisted in 2019, while recalling that 8 million Ukrainians died in the Nazi offensive.
Before the vote, Australia managed to get an amendment to the draft resolution adopted (63 votes in favor, 23 against and 65 abstentions) inserting a new paragraph in which the General Assembly “notes with alarm that the Russian Federation has sought to justify its territorial aggression against Ukraine on the purported basis of eliminating neo-Nazism, and underlines that the pretextual use of neo-Nazism to justify territorial aggression seriously undermines genuine attempts to combat neo-Nazism.”
Hmm…
France: Imperializing and committing atrocities in Vietnam, Algeria, and much of Africa for decades. Has strong relationship with the US and Israel. Votes with US and goes along with all its wars.
Algeria: No relationship with Israel. Votes against genocide.
Wrong on this one. France did show it can say no! (and then France had another limp president who ran back to US with its tail between its legs… Anyway.)
Thanks for the context.
Given Russia submitted the text, and given how european countries voted, I suspect this is mostly about Russia looking for justifications for attacking a neighbour and grabbing land.
Defending Nazism or showing Nazi symbols is illegal in Germany. Holocaust denial is illegal in several european countries. Yet they abstained.
They’d probably vote for such a text if it came from another country that doesn’t “undermine genuine attempts to combat neo-Nazism”
Seems like refusing to condemn Nazism would vindicate Russia’s accusations
Seached and found that the European Union published an explanation for its vote on a similar draft submitted by 2022 by Russia.
EU Explanation of Vote – UN General Assembly: Draft Resolution on Combating glorification of Nazism
This both explain the EU’s rationale for not voting Russia’s draft, and explicitly condemn Niazism
The European Union is unequivocal in its commitment to the global fight against racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia, anti-semitism and related intolerance. Our joint fight against contemporary forms of all extremist and totalitarian ideologies, including neo-Nazism, must be a joint priority for the whole international community.
What a bunch of lying cowardly nazis
There’s nothing wrong with xenophobia when we have no xenos to phobia about.
People, like HP Lovecraft and people like him, suffer from a crippling intellectual handicap that renders them unable to discern their fellow man from actual, factual xenos.
actual, factual xenos.
Love these colonizer index maps
As someone from the U.S., given the history we know about the Trail of Tears and trying to erase Native Americans from existence, this isn’t surprising in the least. Sad, yes, but not surprising.
Yep we boned it, learn from us and be better.
I hate to tell you this, but basically every country has the same story, except the very young. They don’t need to learn from our history; they should learn from their own.
shit amerikkkans say
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples
What makes you think it’s not true? A gander through the history of genocide shows how horrifyingly common it is
It’s horrifyingly common among European countries. That’s not “every country” unless you think only westerners are civilized.
Somali, Chile, Argentina, south Africa, Japan, Korea, China. It’s horrifyingly common no matter what area.
South African apartheid was a Dutch colonial project. There’s been no genocide in China and the one in Korea was perpetrated by the US.
Also, what part of genocide do you think is about being civilized…?
Either you have the shittiest reading comprehension or you’re deliberately misrepresenting the argument to twist it into such a comical interpretation. You’re the one that said “every country” and proceeded to link to a NATOpedia page that fails to list a whole bunch of European/US genocides and even then is short, oh, about 96% of countries on earth.
Despite numerous instances of racial discrimination in many Latin American countries (most often at the hands of CIA backed organizations like Pinochet’s government or the Brazilian junta) the fact is that none of these countries were founded on a war in favor of maintaining slavery and expanding into indigenous lands. In fact, most were founded by the descendants of indigenous peoples casting off the their colonial masters.
To say that every country has been founded via genocide is to imply this is just a normal, unavoidable thing, which is genocide apologia. I wish westerners would stop whitewashing their Nazi ass societies like smearing the rest of us is a good alternative to doing something about the legacy of violence you were raised by.
Lots of countries committed colonialism, not many countries committed genocide on the native population and stole their land to create and expand their nation. The U.S. and Israel are members of a short list.
“everyone else does it to!” Is always the favourite defence of abusers
…wait, you thought this was a defense? I’m sorry, perhaps I worded it poorly then.
If you weren’t defending it, in would say you definitely worded it poorly
Now thats some biiiig projection
Lots of countries committed colonialism, not many countries committed genocide on the native population and stole their land to create and expand their nation. The U.S. and Israel are members of a short list.
I was more referring to general genocide than specifically native populations–but even that there is no shortage of countries like Australia, Canada, and japan that have done as such.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples
There is a depressingly high number.
Ok? Those are the ones we were talking about on this map, youre moving the goalposts from “every” to “yeah the whole international community” which was the point to begin with. These countries get on their high horse when they have an exceptionally genocidal history.
These countries get on their high horse when they have an exceptionally genocidal history.
My point was meant to point out how countries with genocidal histories like to point out others as the ones to avoid repeating examples of rather than their own history.
You’re being straight up racist assuming it’s only white western countries commit genocides.
Lmao and there it is. Racism against the whites.
Just like all the colonial powers voting “I don’t know about this one dawg” because they know their history
It’s funny because it’s the same map as all the “Free world vs unfree world” maps
Ok, why did Ukraine vote against?
It’s Russias way to keep the soviet legacy intact and justify it’s war of aggression to “denazify” Ukraine. There is a huge cultural shift of breaking off any remnants of Soviet “glory” in the country. Sadly it’s hidden behind a lot of valid points, that would explain the abstain votes.
- Expresses deep concern about increased frequency of attempts and activities intended to desecrate or demolish monuments erected in remembrance of those who fought against Nazism during the Second World War, as well as to unlawfully exhume or remove the remains of such persons, and in this regard urges States to fully comply with their relevant obligations, inter alia, under article 34 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions of 194
Refusing to condemn Nazis and insisting on destroying and desecrating the monuments and mortal remains of the people who defeated Nazism seems like it would only vindicate Russias accusations, particularly when you’re putting up statues to people like Bandera in their place
Because when the vote was cast, Western Ukrainian Banderites were in power. Previously in this post.
Because the US installed nazi-sympathizing government in 2014: https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/
US, Canada, Australia, and most of Europe voted against censorship.
It seems Iran was absent, but Israel voted for it.
From 1939-1941 the UK fought Nazis while the USSR collaborated with them.
South Korea abstained, but North Korea voted for it, as did Myanmar.
