Ex-president avoided past ‘shithole countries’ racist invective, but said the US hadn’t gotten enough immigrants from ‘nice countries’

Donald Trump bemoaned a lack of immigrants to the US from “nice” countries “like Denmark [or] Switzerland”, offering millionaire donors at a Florida fundraiser a reprise of infamous racist Oval Office remarks about people coming to America from “shithole countries”.

Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee for president again, despite facing 88 criminal charges and multimillion-dollar civil penalties for tax fraud and defamation, the latter arising from a rape allegation a judge called “substantially true”.

According to the New York Times, which cited an unnamed attendee at the Saturday event in Palm Beach, Trump told his audience: “These are people coming in from prisons and jails. They’re coming in from just unbelievable places and countries, countries that are a disaster.

“And when I said, you know, ‘Why can’t we allow people to come in from nice countries,’ I’m trying to be nice. Nice countries, you know like Denmark, Switzerland? Do we have any people coming in from Denmark? How about Switzerland? How about Norway?”

  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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    I can’t speak for others, but at the moment, even as entertaining as it is, I’d rather watch the US from a safe distance.

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    despite facing 88 criminal charges

    Who here wanna bet that Stephen Miller advised him do do a couple more or fewer in order to land at his favorite number?

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      Hilarious Canada didn’t make the list. Shithole country immigrants keep showing up and that’s exactly what happens.

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        I cut off the list at 173 because I only wanted to show countries higher than the US.

        Canada ranks surprisingly lower at 156.40. I’m not sure why. Maybe the temperatures / treatment of first nations people.

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      I live in Spain. I’ve lived in the US. There is literally no reason to go to the US except to visit of for tourism. Quality of life, and having an excellent health care system, good wather, basically no gun problems (contrary to popular belief, I can own a lot of types of guns, even non-auto assault guns, they are just properly regulated) etc. I’m very employable , and would probably make 2-3 times as much as here, but have no real incentive.

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    This is a trap to identify the Danes and Swiss people with functioning brains and take us all out at once, isn’t it? 😛

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    The model of importing cheap labour from such differing countries seems like a failed one. He does have a point.

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      its funny because trump isnt even sure he’s making a point here, he’s just riffing. If he wanted to import WORKERS from sweden or denmark he’d implement sectoral bargaining. Of course he wouldn’t do that, he had to be dragged kicking and screaming by canada on the nafta renewal to get min wages for auto workers in mexico.

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        I don’t think that’s what he’s saying at all. You seem to be talking about something else.

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    Ironically (to everyone but him) Trump himself is the reason a lot of people from the “good” countries would never consider moving here.

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    I remember sth about german students from US colleges having to had back over Visa struggles when Trump was in power

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    You could double my income, even triple.

    …and I still wouldn’t risk rising my children in the US.

    Not a fucking chance…

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      Literally, had to make this decision four years ago.

      In the end I went to the German branch of the same tech company and only made 1/4 the money I would have in the US.

      However, because it was a US company they made me do the “what to do when there’s a shooter in the workplace” training course anyway. No regrets about not going.

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      I think the same… And I live in Canada, we don’t have it as good as Denmark or Switzerland but still…

      I honestly only go to the States for short visits I dread, because we have family there… Otherwise I wouldn’t even visit

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    I’m a Brit. Thinking about US universities for my kid in a few years.

    Think i can stay there for a few years while he studies ? No chance.

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      The U.S. is not some homogeneous entity. It’s huge. It has its bad regions, but it also has its awesome regions as well. Just like the U.K.

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        You’re missing the point.

        People don’t up sticks and move across the world for the fun of it. They do it because they seek a better life, the US mostly can’t offer that for people who already live in an advanced country.

        Like wise, if you don’t want immigrants from “shit hole” countries, your options are to help make their own country better so that they won’t want to leave or to make your own country shitter than theirs so that they won’t want to come.

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          Well by them coming it is making the country shittier so everything is going according to your brilliant plan!

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          I moved to Germany for the fun of it (you could say that I was seeking a better life, I guess.)

          I’ve also moved across states in the U.S. for the fun it.

          It can happen.

          I’m aware that a whole lot of people do it for different reasons, though.

          And yeah, I find it funny when Americans complain about migrants from, say, Central America. They should learn the role the U.S. played in destabilizing the region in the 80s.

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          or to make your own country shitter than theirs so that they won’t want to come.

          Republicans are certainly trying!

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        But it has no social safety nets really which is what “nice white countries” tend to have. Who wants to move somewhere without universal health care from a place that does?

        And also about half the population is certifiable.

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          You have a point.

          And no, not half of the population. Maybe half of the voting population. The newer generations are less tolerant of the ongoing GOP bullshit.

          Twice in a row Donald Trump lost the popular vote, by millions of people.

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    Most majority white countries have better education, better healthcare, better religious and personal freedom, better personal security, lower crime, and better standards of living than the US.

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      A lot of that is why I left the US. Nowhere is perfect, but a lot of things are better for me personally in Japan.

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        So many Americans have never been outside of the US for any length of time. They have no experience with how good things are everywhere else.

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      Yup. White person from Austria here and while my life is far from perfect, I like having 5 weeks of paid vacation, free healthcare and education, not relying on cars, and many other things I wouldn’t have anymore if I migrated to the US. Maybe Trump should run on a platform of implementing those things in the US.

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        Candian here. No place is perfect. Canada is not perfect. I would never consider moving to the US. I like my freedom too much to give it up.