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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago

RFK Jr. can't win. But he and Cornel West could put Trump back in the White House.

www.usatoday.com

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RFK Jr. can't win. But he and Cornel West could put Trump back in the White House.

www.usatoday.com

return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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In a race certain to be close, third-party candidates are not only a problem for President Joe Biden, they may pose his biggest hurdle to reelection.
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    No they can’t

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      1 year ago

      Spoiler Effect

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      1 year ago

      Nader 2000, anyone?

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        nader didn’t put bush in the whitehouse

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          Definitely debatable. Nader had 97k votes in Florida, and Gore needed about 500.

          There are a number of variables that arguably screwed Gore. The ballot format, the chads, the court, the completion from the left, etc. Many argue that removing any one of those variables could’ve likely tipped things for Gore.

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            Gore won florida

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              The point is that you’re more vulnerable to shenanigans with a tight margin.

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                let’s put blame for Bush’s presidency on bush

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                  Going to back to the point of this thread. Someone like West is not going to win. Vote for him if you want, but if you’re in a state that is going to be tight, voting for him will make it easier for the far right candidate to get certified.

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                    the Democrats and Republicans are both running far right candidates.

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                  And SCOTUS handing it to him, of course.

                  Also Roger Stone and the rest of the Brooks Brothers Riot ratfuckers for delaying and disrupting the recount enough to give SCOTUS cover for their ridiculous decision to weigh in at all.

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        RFK is way more appealing to the maga crowd than mainstream or progressive Dems.

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          How about Cornell West?

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            Appeals to no one anymore

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            Who? I’ve literally never heard of this person prior to now. And I’d like to think I stay fairly up-to-date on US politics.

            So yeah, I’m going to go with probably not.

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              He’s pretty well known among the folks that are big on social justice and environmental issues. I would argue that he’s the biggest name to be on the Green ticket since Nader.

              And he doesn’t have to be know by everyone to fuck over Biden. This is going to be a close race. Spoiling a race means that it could come down to a few more votes than normal for the Greens.

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                West isn’t green

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                  TIL he left the Green Party a few months ago. He was green until last fall.

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                The best way to discredit him is with his stance on Ukraine.

                https://www.newsweek.com/cornel-west-blames-nato-russias-war-ukraine-1812320

                He’s going the with “NATO forced them to” talking point, and he’s against additional funding for Ukraine. I don’t think many people truly on the left will pick him over Biden. Let’s hope not, at least.

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                  he never said NATO forced them he said it’s illegal.

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                    “NATO is an expanding instrument of U.S. global power that provoked Russia into a criminal invasion and occupation of Ukraine,”

                    He said NATO provoked Russia into it, in effect blaming NATO for Russia’s actions.

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                  To be fair, he’s against the US providing international military aid and funding across the board, not just Ukraine.

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