So many non-answers that are like “war janck pls”
That’s not what the question is.
You guys are getting headphone jacks?
He probably still has the smartphone he bought in 2012.
Bought a new one last year.
Headphone jack was a must.
I thought everybody’s using AirPods these days? or at least Bluetooth, everybody has transitioned to Bluetooth, right?
I try Bluetooth every couple of years but it still sucks so much.
It amazes me how after 30 years and a million spec improvements, it still fails so often for me at basic things. Connecting consistently (and quickly), pairing consistently (and quickly), etc.
I know it’s partly just some terrible, cheap implementations of Bluetooth that are to blame, but I don’t care. I plug in headphones, they work. That’s what I want headphones to do. Not have to worry about charging, and being dirt simple are an added bonus.
True. And I don’t know who downvoted you. But I redeemed you with an upvote.
I do not care about having a headphone jack, but it would be nice to have the charging port on top; it’s more out of the way for me.
Yes
Just having one would be great. Thank you Apple (but why did so many Androids copy the removal?).
Well it gives companies a bit more space to work with.
I believe it was for waterproofing. One less port means less sealing, making it easier to improve the waterproofing of the phone.
Water ingress isn’t the issue & there’s been waterproofed ports for decades. They wanted to make devices thinner—but what value is it when its too thin to support a jack & made of materials that now require a case?
That’s probably just the marketing reason. The realistic reason is probably that they want to sell you their brand of wireless earbuds that need to be replaced in a few years tops
That conspiracy is one I believe too. Seems too odd that all OEMs dropped their jacks at the same time they started selling buds.
Which is only likely to last one year anyways. After which, you can pay an exorbitant amount to replace the degrading glue. I’d just like my wired headphones back, the jack will last longer than a year at the very least.
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How much they paid you to write this comment?
We found the Apple exec
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Yeah, because everyone memes on Apple for removing shit then they do the same thing to save a buck.
Who did it first? Did iphones ever have a headphone port?
How old are you? And doesn’t your second question contradict your first?
If you were being serious: iPhones have had headphone jacks until 2016, the iPhone 7 was the first to come without one.
Original iPhone was an iPod Touch with a SIM card & the ads were all about black silhouettes with white earbuds in. You let Tim cook & you start losing functionality as Apple transitions into an ad platform with all the data they have harvested.
Ever since I’ve gotten some decent noise cancelling Bluetooth headphones, I don’t really care where the headphone jack is or even if there is one. It happened way too many times that the cable got snagged on something and yanked the buds out of my ears, and I’m well past the age where I had the cable under my shirt and the earbuds dangling in front of me all the time. Especially when running or otherwise exercising, I don’t miss the cable one tiny bit.
Anywhere but the bottom half of the phone. I hate that the charging port is on the bottom. It’s in the way when I need to use my phone while charging.
bottom, so I can charge it and have headphones plugged in at the same time while it’s in my pocket.
I had the last generation iPod nano, and none of the clip-on cases I could find would put it upside down like the way I preferred my phone so I cut it with an exacto knife to reverse it
I prefer the headphone jack to be Bluetooth, honestly… Haven’t had a physical port in many years and found I didn’t miss it at all
Psst… imma let you in on a secret. You can have a headphone jack, AND Bluetooth. They’re not mutually exclusive.
Lucky. I have collected a fair bit of audio gear that use very frequently. The dongles dislodge from the charging port too easily to be useful. I do use BT dac/amps but most of the time I’m in too much of a hurry to bother and I rely on the jack almost entirely.
Bottom. It slows accumulation of pocket lint in charging port.
Not picky—it just needs to be there else I would be forced to buy Bluetooth e-waste.
Yeah, cabled e-waste is so much more civilised.
Unless you are buying a DSP cable, there aren’t microchips or batteries or firmware updates for analog earphones. Kinds with even slight quality to them have detachable, replacebale cables (current IEMs are fine on their second cable) & headsets usually have simple parts a basic soldering iron or similar can fix (my old ones I got repaired in 3 countries in tiny shops by folks that’d never seen them). You gonna repair your earbuds when they break? Last shop I went to, the first question asked if they were wireless & only after confirming they aren’t do they even bother trying to help. You think analog needs worry about a new version of Bluetooth or some security vulnerability in the firmwares communicating to your smarter phone (& also used to fingerprint your physical presence)? I can plug mine in to a port built in ’70s & get a analog signal out.
I don’t know what kind of shit you guys buy, but I have used one single pair of Bluetooth tws earbuds since pre-covid and never looked back to wired which, at least in my experience, are the ones more prone to breaking
Edit: and it’s not like I got Apple airpods or anything, they are haylou gt1 that I paid like 25$ for in 2019 or 18
Edit2: and yes I do have a micro jack in my phone which I have not used once for the three years I have had this phone
Good luck producing more e-waste, because you can buy many wired earphones with replaceable cables, and those cables cost $10-20, as opposed to $200 Bluetooth garbage. Those earphone models start from $15.
And I suppose you can’t see how replacing cables is producing e-waste regardless, unlike buying one proper pair of Bluetooth earphones and using it for many, many years without replacing any part of it whatsoever?
Firstly, a cable is going to outlast the lifespan of batteries that are irreplaceable inside earphone pieces, which make the whole set useless. With the wired earphones with replaceable cables, your earphone pieces are fully intact. Secondly, the wire is highly recyclable with plastic sheath, copper wires and plastic/metal ends. This is not the case with wireless earbuds that become obsolete as a whole set after a few years.
So with wired 2-pin or MMCX IEMs, you end up with just the wire becoming damaged in 3-4 years, while you save up on money and generate far less e-waste, and is far more environmentally better since those earphone pieces need to be produced or bought less.
Of course, it goes without saying that you can buy wired IEMs that cost upwards of $70 that have no equivalent in wireless audio gear space. So that is just another advantage.
I forgot to tell you that you can buy small wireless DACs for $40-50 which allow plugging 3.5mm audio gear, and also allow battery replacements, unlike throwaway TWS earbuds.
If you still insist after this knowledge on wireless, neckbands are a good bit better than TWS buds, as their batteries can atleast be replaced if you buy ones from good companies. Although wireless space is all about planned obsolescence, unless you pick one of the forementioned options I suggest.
Not my experience. I’ve spent way more on bluetooth headphones/buds than I ever spent on wired. 🤷
It’s not about how much you spend, but rather what you spend it on
I couldn’t possibly tell you how many sets of wired headphones I’ve had to throw out in my life because of frayed/broken cables. Those things are e-waste too.
You are buying shitty headphones if you cant detach or otherwise repair the cables. The cables are just copper & some casing which is hardly e-waste & the rest is a magnet housed in plastic/resin. There isn’t lithium production for a battery or other rare minerals for a microchip.
It’s kind of comical how many Bluetooth earbuds I’ve been through because they break and die so often. I was a very early adopter around 2017 or so and my first pair sucked (and broke). Next I got air pods which were great for sometime but broke too (case stopped charging). Got Samsung level U, they sounded decent but they had the lousiest, wet newspaper, build quality I’ve ever seen. Constantly cracking and separating at the seams. By the time I was done with them, there was probably more superglue than plastic.
I had some sound peats QY8 earbuds. They were uncomfortable and had poor design. The earbud protruded far from the body and was also very flimsy. Accidentally pressed them against a flat surface and the body basically disintegrated.
I also had a pair of Logitech artemis headphones, but those failed to connect after a year or so.
Oh, and ALL of them had poor battery life, later in their use. Within a year or 2 the battery life seems to be cut in half if not more.
Since then I have switched to Sennheiser hd600, DUNU TITAN S and Koss ksc75. Both of the former have replaceable cables and latter can easily be repaired if you can solder. Even then you can probably bring it to a shop and they can repair it quickly and cheaply.
Bottom. Phones go in pockets top down so you don’t have to readjust your grip. If it’s on top, now whatever’s plugged in is holding up the phone. The only real benefit for a top port is the ability to have stereo bottom speakers without space constraint worries.
At the bottom. This way when you will it out of your pocket, you don’t have to turn it around for the screen to be the right way up.
Honestly I just use my hands
What privacy respecting phone are you using that also has a headphone jack? If it has an sd card slot too I’ll think I’ve gone back a decade
