Biden’s Threads posts can show up in Mastodon clients.
  • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    7 months ago

    POTUS puts the ‘fed’ in ‘fediverse.’

    Thanks I hate it.

    Also too bad that the White House has joined Meta, specifically, rather than the decentralized Fediverse, but libs gonna lib.

  • Chozo@fedia.io
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    7 months ago

    @potus@threads.net

    Feels a bit weird pinging the president in Lemmy comments, but come at me, Secret Service.

  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Mastodon instances need to defederate.

    If you want to comment on any POTUS posts with the broader user base, you have to download Threads. Fuck that noise.

    • electricprism@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      7 months ago

      That would be like Gmail blocking Yahoo, it defeats the purpose of a Fediverse especially when users can already block content from domains they dislike.

      • GreatDong3000@lemm.eeEnglish
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        7 months ago

        No, big corp with millions of users they cannot moderate defeats the purpose of a fediverse.

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        7 months ago

        First of all, no it doesn’t. The fediverse is about servers communicating with each other, that doesn’t mean all servers, it just means that multiple servers communicate, and if a server is being problematic it will be blocked or limited, as another example a good amount of servers limit or block Mastodon.social and due to spam issues. Threads in this regard is no different, it just so happens to be a much bigger problem than Mastodon.social hence why there is much stronger efforts to defederate it.

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        especially when users can already block content from domains they dislike.

        No, you are deliberately or unintentionally misrepresenting how domain blocks and indeed blocking in general works in Lemmy (Domain blocks target communities and do not hide users or their content), and even with Mastodon this doesn’t solve the biggest problems with threads, that being the extremely poor moderation and the EEE threat which are server wide problems and not user preference issues.

    • shininghero@kbin.social
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      7 months ago

      There’s also a limited federation mode that server admins can use. Users and posts are still searchable, but they do not show on the public federated feed.
      Useful for this exact case where a server may have beneficial accounts, but the rest should be hidden for moderation reasons.

      Still would prefer it being on a proper mastodon server, but I can live with this. Whatever server ends up hosting a President’s account now has to deal with record preservation laws for their posts. Let’s leave that bureaucratic stuff to threads.

      • Jumuta@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        7 months ago

        how about having the American government just host their own fediverse servers? it’s not like they don’t have the money to do so

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Don’t you love how the government is supporting private for-profit businesses? I received an amber alert 2 days ago and when I clicked the link it took me to Twitter. I don’t have a Twitter account and the page wouldn’t load. What in the actual fuck? Our government is using a website run by an insane man-child for critical infrastructure.

        • Ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          7 months ago

          I had a conversation with a friend from the US (I’m not, he’s from Like the New England area idk where exactly), he’s very conservatist, like the typical “I own a guy and I like it” type of person (lucky that he doesn’t base his entire personality on it), and even he said that both options sucked ass and very much envied that most of the European countries have a sensible system of voting that has more than two parties, since when one sucks go to the another, and the possibility of all candidates being absolutely trash is basically zero when you got like 7+ parties, compared to the two in the US

          If y’all had a functioning government and something that resembles capitalism (a few leading members while everyone else gets fucked around, sounds similar? cough Meta, Google, Microsoft cough and others) and had some competition it would go all way different than it’s currently going

          • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            7 months ago

            Your state or county is probably using what was identified as an easy and accessible solution several years ago. It was probably selected because it was something any yahoo could easily access and post to.

            Now that there are a lot of cheap and easy FOSS alternatives, it probably wouldn’t be too hard to petition for a ballot initiative that required these alerts to be published on a state masto instance or something.

    • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      7 months ago

      I mean, it’s not like he’s reading the Threads users’ comments either.

      • Draconic NEO@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        7 months ago

        Neither did Mastodon.social or Mastodon.online, though honestly I’d recommend people steer clear of those instances when signing up for a different reason, they’re also very widely blocked or limited by a lot of servers due to issues with spam and moderation. Ironic that these instances are already too big to effectively moderate, yet threads is bigger and also way worse (see link in other comment about their moderation issues) and yet people still want to federate with them.

        • stebo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          7 months ago

          Well for one thing it’s nice to be able to follow someone’s threads account without having to install that crap on your phone.

          • Draconic NEO@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            7 months ago

            I don’t really see the point since the federation is one-way (at least last time I heard), so you can’t reply to anything as it never gets sent back to threads. You’d be better off just following it as an RSS feed if you really want it (There are unofficial tools to do that for threads and it might be officially available in the future).

      • Orbituary@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        7 months ago

        Even if he was, why would this excite you? Whenever something goes mainstream, enshitification begins.

        • lemming934@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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          7 months ago

          The obscurity of the Fediverse is not its defense from enshittification. The fact that it’s so easy to move from server to server is.

          If lemmy.world enshittifies, you can just move to lemmy.sdf.org without a big loss.

          I think that lemmy could use more people.

          • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            7 months ago

            Exactly! How do people not understand this yet? The decline of platforms isn’t magic, it’s very predictable and lemmy’s core design is specifically meant to counter it. Think, people!

            • (⬤ᴥ⬤)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              7 months ago

              /s no actually badness is directly proportional to the amount of users that’s why the internet went to shit the moment more than 2 people connected

        • redcalcium@lemmy.instituteEnglish
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          7 months ago

          I thought the white house actually runs their own mastodon instance when I read the headline. That would mark the point where mastodon reached mainstream use which is an incredible milestone.

          • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            7 months ago

            Don’t really care much for what Biden has to say at this point, but I’d prefer if various government orgs would all host their own instances. I don’t want to go to a privately owned company to know about road construction or ballot box locations.

  • T Jedi@bolha.forumEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I’m just waiting for the president of my country to start federating, then I can follow him from Mastodon and delete my Threads account.

    I see it as a positive thing

    • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Just a totally straight blog about ice cream and cool cars, with no mention of politics.

    • BuryMyHorse@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

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    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Joe can’t see your welcome message. Threads can’t see content posted outside of Threads. It can only spam masto Instances, and if you want to comment, you need to download Threads.

    • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      7 months ago

      If you think that he personally goes anywhere near this I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya…

      All of his social media accounts are handled by his PR team. He probably doesn’t even know what’s on them.

    • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Ah it’s Threads :/

      Good that it’s fedi, bad that it’s threads. They definitely have the resources to run a government Mastodon instance, but no let’s stay beholden to the tech companies

      • folkrav@lemmy.caEnglish
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        7 months ago

        I’d rather have them on Bluesky/AT than Threads, to be perfectly honest…

          • folkrav@lemmy.caEnglish
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            7 months ago

            Eh, from what I could gather from both specs ATProto does address some shortcomings of ActivityPub, so the idea has some technical merit. While a lot of the current Fediverse seems to have settled on AP, it’s not like it’s the be-all and end-all of federated protocols either.

            Maybe you’re just talking about the company behind it?

            • tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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              7 months ago

              AT does have some advantages, but I strongly prefer the whole philosophy behind AP.

              And yes, bsky doesn’t really inspire me with confidence.

        • sorghum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          7 months ago

          It’s run by Jack. The same Jack, founder of Twitter that was at the helm while Twitter went to shit before Musk got it. I know Musk era has been really bad, but it was getting really bad under Jack. I wouldn’t trust a social network run by him or Musk or Zuck.

        • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          7 months ago

          I believe, people are mostly annoyed that Bluesky started yet another (half-baked) standard, rather than throwing their weight behind ActivityPub.

          This would be fine, if they were decidedly a for-profit company, but their whole branding is that they want to benefit humanity.

          It’s also weird that the former CEO of Twitter is involved.
          The guy could have pushed Twitter into that direction, but apparently, he needed a separate project to have this change of heart.

          Like, I don’t know, they’ve got some things that look alright:

          • They’ve open-sourced some things.
          • It’s legally a Public Benefit Company.
          • They’ve got the creator of XMPP on board, so that at least makes it credible that they genuinely want to come up with a better protocol.
          • Their CEO is a techie.

          But yeah, I’m still worried, it ends up being a bait-and-switch. Make it all look good for now and once enough users have signed up, slowly transition to just becoming yet another Twitter.