They are desperate to be cool, it’s so cringe.

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        Someone attempted bully me once and I beat then half to death with a primary school chair, ironically their parents came round to my place complaining to my parents despite them being the class bully.

        I wasn’t the bully I’m quite shy but I just wasn’t having it, they tried to bully me and got wrecked for the attempt and quite a few others then followed that pattern.

        Trump needs to confess who is behind this I think Putin but anyone else needs serious prison time.

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        Heh. They tried to bully me, and when I resisted, I was the one who was asked to leave the school. Gotta protect those bullies because they are part of the catholic school system…

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        Speak for yourself I just asked chatgpt about me and it started listing thing I did online in my teen years. Which to be honest is worrying but still kind of nice it knows me.

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      I remember LiveJournal as something good. I wouldn’t use it, but felt a bit like Telegram today, except without Telegram, which is a good thing.

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        It was, until the events of the mid-2010s when most of the science fiction fandom community quit it and went over to Facebook, presumably because that was more convenient (i.e. on it already) than going to e.g. Dreamwidth (a LJ-alike that is still going). It operated in a very similar way to FB but somehow much more focussed maybe because it never got the ‘businesses having pages on there’ bit. Those of my friends who were on both, often used FB more as an events calendar than all-around social media.

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      That’s exactly what happens when a Facebook competitor (possibly an ethical one) rolls out these days. Which is part of the problem. Zuck poisoned the idea.

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      I wanted to. I liked Myspace. It has character. Some of it was cringe. But you could at least customize it. Facebook seemed so bland. But I had an ex GF that insisted on it and I didn’t think it was worth breaking up over. I shouldn’t have been such a pushover.

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        I stayed on Myspace long past when the majority jumped ship. It eventually lost what made it special when the boy band guy bought it to twist it into something more music focused. But I still preferred it to the sterile, uniformity of Facebook.

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          I’m assuming the GF would break up with OP over it. Which is itself a big red flag.

          Edit: fwiw, it does seem like there is quite a bit of drama and bullshit over choice of phone (Android vs Apple)

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            I used to hate the Android vs Apple drama vis à vis romantic partner choice, but then I realized that it’s in itself a great filter of people I don’t want in my life

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          It sounds ridiculous now with everything that’s happened in social media in the meantime, but I can see that being a thing in 2006 when the vibe of social media was very different to what it’s become now. Back then it was just a tidy little PHP site for you to chat and share photos with friends and family on. Literally nothing appeared in your feed that wasn’t a post from a Friend. It was basically a Whatsapp group with a photo gallery feature.

          Since Facebook didn’t have the baggage it has now, it’s much easier to read refusing to join your girlfriend’s circle of friends and family back then as a wider rejection of her as a person, same as if you refused to join her family Whatsapp/Telegram/whatever group chat.

          I’m not taking her side here, but I wanted to give a bit of perspective for people looking at it through the lens of 2025.

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          Nothing like that. It was more like she was insistent and I didn’t feel like it was a hill to die on at the time.

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    Living your life to impress other men by hating women is one of the most embarrassing things I can imagine. Looking up to any of these men for how to live your life is even sadder.

    I’ve worked hard to keep these kinds of men out of my personal life, to keep them away from me, out of my goddamn sight. Now they are in my face daily, not only influencing the world for the worse but making me nauseous at how uncool and pathetic they are, on top of their other sins. It’s too much, I can’t take it, there needs to be a change.

    It’s time for us to start getting revenge on the nerds.

    Sounds to me like they crave attention more than anything, poor insecure past-neglected angsty man-agers they are. Depopulating their various platforms and reducing their viewership would be nice. Sucks that anyone at all would feel inclined to lend them their ears and eyes when there are far better alternatives out there.

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      Man when I think of living it up with wealth and power I think of Sal Maroni in The Dark Knight.

      These guys don’t need a criminal underworld to have a cigar, dress in a tailored designer suit, get a drink and a couple of girls to pretend to like you while you drown your thoughts in excessively loud music and exotic dancers on stage.

      I think these elite are afraid of what they are: flawed humans. They can’t get everything they demand, and they’d rather destroy humanity than admit they were wrong or made a mistake, or felt bad about something. So they have to pump the fascists up and make damn sure the people have someone other that just you to get angry about.

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    The thing they all share is that they are deeply unloved. Trump, musk, bezos, zuck, none of them have healthy loving families. They have noons they can genuinely connect with. And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need. But it never does, so they just keep going not realizing the path they chose doesn’t end anywhere near what they desire. Money will never buy love and peace.

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      And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need.

      If that was all it was, then I’d feel sorry for them. No, they’re trying to fulfill that need by being Great Men of History with Mighty Plans, but their Mighty Plans are all terrible, because they’re horrible people.

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        Yeah, I think it’s a mistake to imagine that these are good people who just need a little love. There are literally hundreds of millions of people who aren’t getting enough love for proper human flourishing and it’s not like that turned them all into fascists. The kind of evil exhibited by these people must be attributed to a fundamental enjoyment of the suffering of others.

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        Don’t try and downplay the affect of connecting with noons on the human psyche. They are an evil scourge and should be eradicated. This is exactly the kind of thing a noon would post.

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      I wouldn’t challenge this view for Musk, Bezos, Trump. But Zuck gives me more of a “reformed (now married) incel that comes from an otherwise normal family environment vibe”. His marriage seems at least typical, likely loving etc.

      His product happens to be the most harmful for democracy and I consider him equal for worst of the bunch as a result, but I think it’s explained by corporate/personal greed and being out of touch with reality.

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      I read some books by Alice Miller that discussed some childhoods of authoritarian rulers and they were all of unloved. They had not one adult stick up for them, be their advocate or helper, during their childhood years.

      Many of us as children have been unwanted or unloved by our caregivers. Most of us had at least one adult: an uncle, grandmother, teacher etc, who truly tried to help at least once.

      What the monsters in history had in common is an absence of evidence of even that happening for them. And their revenge as adults was terrible.

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        Man, I should have became an authoritarian ruler.

        Instead I became isolated and I haven’t had a visitor in over a decade.

        Fuck it. Vote for theangryseal!

        For real though, maybe if I hadn’t ever used drugs haha. I had a lot of “friends” when I was living in that world. Might have stopped me. :p

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      Money will never buy love and peace.

      True enough.

      But, in the broken psyches of the ones you’ve mentioned, it buys perfectly serviceable alternatives which they can convince themselves actually does make them happy.

      They are so broken that broken solutions actually work for them…

      🤷‍♂️ 🤡 🖕

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      not realizing the path they chose doesn’t end anywhere near what they desire

      It’ll end where they deserve though. Alone, despised and empty. No amount of money or stupid blue checkmarks will ever change that.

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      That’s a tired stereotype. Powerful people are unloved because they don’t need to be loved. They are psychopaths, they have all the love they need, they are bored with the world and have nothing more to want.

      People around you are unloved because they have problems.

      Also money can buy you a cottage surrounded by nice trees near a river, healthy food, more house animals than you could want, a fast PC, jasmine and lilac bushes outside your window.

      I think it can go a long way.

      My irritation from this stereotype is because it kinda says the opposite of what it says. It feels like sublimated envy, expressed by saying that you don’t envy them. Why talk about their money at all then.

      I wouldn’t envy anyone’s money if that’s all the difference between us, unfortunately money buys power and power is used to impose one’s will upon me, and that I very much care about.

      But your typical young Trotskyists in the Interwebs write whole articles consisting of Marxist vibes (a strong thing, especially in spring, but not enough) and envy to those having more. LOL, someone having more money is not our problem. Our problem is someone attacking us with it.

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        While this is a fresh perspective of the trope, there is very significant evidence that becoming rich is a predictor of early death and depression, presumably due to how hard it becomes to connect to people. Normal people need money to eat and live, and handle it like the privilege it is. It is synonymous with survival for most people. It’s no wonder at all to me why the oligarchs has been naturally selected to be psychopaths. All other people die. A select few give it away and devote themselves to reintegrate back to humanity but those are very few and far between.

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          What? It’s literally the opposite. Do you remember the discovery that owning horses extends your lifespan by several years, not for any merit of its own, but because it strictly excludes the poor and most of the middle class?

          The more money you have, the healthier you are, the longer you live, and the happier you tend to be. It’s straight propaganda that being rich is somehow a burden or requires people of exceptional mental strength to struggle on.

          https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3139960/

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        People not accepting that other people got a easier time doing certain things than others is certainly a problem, but too much blaming isn’t good as well.

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    If they were posh people with “breeding” that wouldn’t make being the direct or indirect victim of their destruction any better, unless you’re an upper middle class Briton who has bern btought up with 19th century notions of “born to rule elites” such as most columnists for The Guardian.

    I get it that people here derive a little enjoyment out of taking the piss of the character flaws of these wankers, but were they are coming from is not were this columnist is coming from.

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    Every major politician in the USA has major financial backers with their own agendas that they purchase through superPAC contributions and by funding re-election campaigns. It’s been the ruling oligarchy my whole life and I’m middle aged. Pretending it’s different or worse now is disingenuous.

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      It is worse now, at least the legal money side.

      Citizens United removed the limits on the international money as well as the domestic money.

      Why is the countey tearing itself apart? Because the foreign money has interest in weakening, stealing, amd profiteering from the USA.

      Conversely, the domestic money wants to keep the domestic part from falling completely apart; at least until the real estate, votes, and grant money for the revitalization project are all lined up.

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      Your statement reminds me of entrepreneurship: you’ve got a dream, a vision, a goal to improve people’s lives. What you don’t got is enough money to get your dream into the hands of people it will help. So, you go in search of people with money who honestly don’t give a damn about your dream, they just want to know how it’s going to get them more money, which they already have in abundance but somehow feel the need to continue to grow their hoard. They want to see business plans, with exit strategies. They want to maximize ROI, minimize (monetary) risk, minimize time to market - and those are the criteria your pitch will be evaluated on relative to all the others they receive all the time.

      Politicians aren’t selling a business plan, they’re selling a legislative agenda. They don’t have to show ROI, they have to show low-cost electability.

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    Little Dick Energy. That’s what I think every single time I see any of these folks in the news. But apparently there are enough weird little aspirants out there that they do alright?

    Fuck 90% of this species. 👍

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    I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this but everything seems to be going down the tubes quite fast.

    Yeah like having to accept all cookies to read the article.