Now I understand why at each windows 11 update, they introduce more bugs than ever

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    2 months ago

    Government spyware finally has a challenger for the title of “primary reason that most Microsoft software runs like hot garbage”.

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    Would be interesting to see how they measured that metric. Are they tagging individual lines as AI generated?

    What those lines are too would be interesting,AI as auto complete is less dangerous than complete generation, but probably also less dangerous.

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      AI as auto complete is exactly what I was thinking.

      I’ve seen lots of cases where AI appears as an auto complete suggestion and I can just hit <TAB> and it finishes the current line. It’s essentially filling in the boilerplate text. Heck in some cases it isn’t even right, but it’s close enough that I can change a few values.

      I also want to point out that this isn’t particularly new technology. This existed before AI. It has perhaps expanded more, but it isn’t a revolutionary improvement, it’s an incremental one. So when we talk about usefulness, I think it is actually more useful.

      Now if it could do all the magic planning and thinking, that would be more useful, but we’re not there yet.

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      2 months ago

      Most probably Microsoft has set objectives for how much LoC are from LLMs and developers invented numbers to match that metric (because they probably have things more important to do than counting LoC)

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    I bet they’re counting code written while someone had an AI plugin installed as “written by AI” and I bet that accounts for almost all of that 30%. On top of that, I’m betting that they made it mandatory to have such a plug in, and the other 70% is just code written before they mandated this.

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      I would be very surprised if 30% of their code lines had even been touched at all by anyone since AI coding assistants became a thing.

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        I could see stuff getting small changes and them claiming that the entirety of the new version is “written by AI”.

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        I wish this shot from The Terminator had the camera showing Sarah Conner’s face instead of Reese’s, because it’d be such an appropriate meme image on multiple levels for when someone makes a misleading claim about some current AI system.

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      Also, having 1/3 lines with obvious code that can be auto suggested correctly would make sense, but that is hardly code “written by ai” in the way they suggest.

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        Those are the easy time savings though, the safe easy stuff the developer doesn’t have to worry about anymore. (Giving them time do the gnarly stuff)

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          It is exactly the opposite, with simple, predictable auto-complete you didn’t have to worry about that anymore, with LLMs you always have to look at it in detail because every little thing could be just plain completely different and wrong.

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            I can read way faster than I can type though. You still check it, but it’s pretty good as that kind of stuff once you have an example for it to follow.

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              Reading code is usually orders of magnitude slower than writing code. Sure, typing might be slower than reading but to check if it is what you intended you have to understand it too.

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                Well, I’m generally very anti-LLM but as a library author in Java it has been very helpful to create lots of similar overloads/methods for different types and filling in the corresponding documentation comments. I’ve already done all the thinking and I just need to check that the overload makes the right call or does the same thing that the other ones do – in that particular case, it’s faster. But if I myself don’t know yet how I’m going to do something, I would never trust an AI to tell me.

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        I’d guess a lot of the people writing the code don’t even have it turned on, it’s just installed because management said it had to be, because management wants to be able to tell investors they’re “innovating work flows”.

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          I am a small sample to confirm that’s exactly the reason in my brother’s company.

          And in my company we’re pressured to make X prompts every week to the company’s own ChatGPT wrapper to show we’re being productive. Even our profit shares have a KPO attached to that now. So many people just type “Hello there” every morning to count as another interaction with the AI.

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          Every few months I turn it on for a few days just to see if it is better.

          Then I go back to the old AST based autocomplete that actually knows something useful about my code.

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    ??? No it’s not! Can investors sue because this is such an obvious lie? Pls I have 0.3 Microsoft shares

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    So this explains why Microsoft Swiftkey is total dogshit now. Also why the Outlook barely works.

    Its unbelievable.

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      I used to be able to swipe freely on SwiftKey, and now I can’t really do it without being extra careful and mindful of not spelling the wrong thing. Idk what Microsoft did to the product but I wouldn’t call it an improvement.

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        Idk what Microsoft did to the product but I wouldn’t call it an improvement.

        I think the article we’re looking at here isn’t really hyperbolic. They got AI to write all their code and broke the Keyboard.

        Just FYI, if you can live without swipping, I recommend FUTO keyboard., it is basically Swiftkey but it actually works and doesn’t come with Microsoft’s spyware built in.

        It’s what I use now, and I’m really happy. Don’t be fooled by it being in Alpha, because it works flawlessly.

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    2 months ago

    This only makes sense if they are counting intellisense auto complete as “AI written”

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      Was the auto complete in visual studio not a “trained” set before the llm craze kicked off? Would not surprise me if they decided to include that.

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      Has to be something like that. Nadella is somehow cheating with the number, trying to keep the AI hype going.

      You could say ALL of my latest scripts were written with AI. Because I often use it to get a hint or gather some boilerplate code (which I still go over and modify).

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    I’m still forced to use Microsoft Outlook and teams, unfortunately, and boy oh boy is it bad.

    Yesterday i spent 45 minutes of a 1,5 meeting (that would have been 45 minutes) on trying teams to please try and use the right microphone, please share a screen (not working under Firefox or chrome now, apparently)

    I can’t wait for the day that I have some time to get us off that dog shit

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      Outlook is pretty damned bullet proof, Teams, OTOH, is a fucking mess. I can see IT wanting to keep everything in the same ecosystem, that’s perfectly sane, but I’m certain Zoom can be setup to honor AD credentials. We set it to use Google SSO.

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        Ha, yeah my Outlook will randomly just not be able to connect to server when starting up. This is from fresh boot every day, some days it just can’t, have to reboot and then it works! Fucking brilliant, they managed to break email.

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      I love that Outlook occasionally fires up one of its keyboard shortcuts and clears your entire email you were typing if you’re not paying attention.

      Fucking love it.

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        Yeah WTF is that about? Office picks up on my keys at least once or twice a day, I don’t have that issue with any other program. Just another day in Microsoft land, and it suuuuuucks

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    Eww. Maybe it’s not really true and Microsoft just wants to remind us that big corporate AI is so legit that all the software you use all day was “helped” by it.

    But really for me the issue is the company, not the AI. If I read an article about AI generated code making it into the Linux kernel or some gnu/kde/etc utilities, I don’t think I would worry much because those changes will be reviewed by cranky old nerds who care about the functionality of the software first. I have no such confidence in Microsoft’s processes.

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    This makes sense and would explain the mainline windows versioning and probably the xbox versioning too!

    Microsoft to AI: List all the integers from one to eleven.

    AI: 3. 95. 98. 2000. XP. Vista. 7. 8. 10. 11.

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    2 months ago

    Fun fact: Nadella has been replaced with an AI agent a couple of months ago and still nobody has noticed. “Copilot, while I’m away, generate bs on AI adoption and fire a bunch of employees, ok?”