And their planes made with scrap parts are still flying around.
Edit: A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy, reminds me of an article i read this week.
https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/657978/reddit-ai-experiment-banned
Well shit, that doctor who phrase about the human super power of forgetting rings even true day by day
Yes but won’t anybody think of Shareholder Value?!!
But one ceo gets killed and the polic and fbi go all in
they’re just doing their job. protecting the interests of big business and the wealthy.
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I remember thinking how much like Russia it would be to try to damage an American companies reputation, especially one that is providing support for their enemy…
Slow down there, Joseph McCarthy. /s
Not everything fucked up about capitalism can be reasonably pinned on the Russians.
This did not happen.
Was there ever a credible investigation?
Yes.
What’s there to investigate? It was just your normal everyday ‘outside a hotel, the day before your witness testimony to expose how a giant government backed multinational corporation is sacrificing people’s lives for profit, suicide’ It happens all the time!
He already witnessed, right? This was a couple weeks later? Anyway, that’s the sort of details that’d be important.
Actually, no! He was only two days in and had a lot more to go.
Do you assume guilt in the absence of an investigation?
This is honestly a subject I get annoyed about. The US has ‘whistleblower’ protections but it’s really not there. This isn’t a black-op opp, it’s a failure of protections/proper compensations for blowing the whistle. Imagine you’ve spent your whole life dedicated to one field of engineering. You’ve now sacrificed it to blow the whistle. It’s not fair, nor is it just, but that’s what happens.
Boeing has done so much wrong that it honestly feels negligent to focus on a perceived assassination. And it directs attention away from how whistleblowers could be protected
I suppose once you’re responsible for hundreds to thousands of innocent people’s deaths, one more kinda fades into the background without much further effect.
He wasn’t rich enough for anyone to care about.
I mean, fuck Boeing and the death still seems suspicious. But to claim that there was no police investigation is just lying. Suspect a cover-up or frame or whatever if you want, but seems like there was a pretty thorough investigation: https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/05/18/police-release-investigation-report-boeing-whistleblower-death/
An unpopular opinion, but I’m not buying a conspiracy either. The guy wanted to hurt Boeing, had just finished testifying and saw the writing on the wall that Boeing was going to walk, and decided to kill himself as a last stab at bringing attention to it. Worked like a charm too.
This is not an unpopular opinion, the people here are just unhinged. It’s the other side of the same qanon coin.
It’s only unpopular because every time someone dies that’s even tangentially associated with some corporate fuckery the internet instantly calls it an assassination. It’s absolutely stupid, but the hive mind seems to be geared to desperately want everything to be a conspiracy. No better than the conservatives making vaccines a conspiracy.
Equating whistleblowers being killed to vaccine conspiracies shows how well people have been brainwashed into state obedience. Any narrative goes.
Evaluating everything as a conspiracy shows how well people have become incapable of critical thinking and applying cold logic and skepticism to both sides of the equation. Any narrative goes.
CIA: “Mission Accomplished”
In this case there is no benefit of the doubt.
What do you think happened with Epstein?
He was not killed.
He did kill himself.
My suspicion is there were deliberate steps to take him off suicide watch and allow him the unsupervised time and means with which to kill himself. He knew he was fucked and his life was over forever coupled with scores of people wanting him dead, along with being raked over the coals to roll over on rich and powerful people. But apparently that’s not enough for people, they have to manufacture a murder.
But no, he was not murdered.
And the cameras all suddenly failed and the guards were sleeping right? Putting the fed in fediverse.
Idk if you actually believe this or not and it doesn’t really matter, if you expect anyone else to believe it you’re an incurable moron
If only we had the refrence of past experiences to better predict how corporations act in the future.
Chiquita banana hired paramilitary death squads to secure their bananas and they were never punished.
The bigger conspiracy nut theory is ignoring observable reality to make corpos the good guys.
Don’t put words in my mouth.
In no way shape or form do I view corporations as “good guys”. They are greedy, destructive on multiple levels, self-serving, cold, and often straight up evil.
Nobody here has observed shit except a someone died associated with a court case against a corporation. Everything here calling it a conspiracy is conjecture and made up opinion.
The hiring of paramilitary death squads and what banana republics are is a completely different and tragic issue that extends far beyond what a single “hit” on an individual is.
Don’t suck on the words if you don’t want them in your mouth lol
You picked a side
You picked a side
Yeah. They picked truth and honesty over sensationalism.
Spreading lies about corporations doesn’t help. They’re bad enough anyways; we don’t need to make up stories about them to paint them in a bad light, they’re perfectly capable of painting themselves.
The braindead people out there who fight against you understand that playing devils advocate means you are advocating for the devil.
It’s sad that the college educated are incapable of understanding this.
there’s proof it wasn’t a suicide in the article you’ve linked there… well, it’s not the same as having the complete police report, buuut:
finger was still on the trigger when officers attempted to remove the gun from his hand. A police report states no fingerprints were recovered from the gun.
so, he wiped down the gun and bullets for fingerprints, and then shot himself?
sounds a lot like someone else shot him or put the gun in his hand and made him shoot himself (like by threatening his family)… and a shiny silver revolver is great for collecting fingerprints….
could’ve been an omitted detail… or soaked in blood?they mention his fingerprints were found all over his notebook, so that seems pretty inconsistent….
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i’ll just go smoke my Sherlock Holmes pipe now….like by threatening his family
Exactly. Boeing investors/management maybe didn’t kill anybody. They simply asked him if he loved $familyMember1 ($age, $location, $bestFriend), $familyMember2 ($age, $location…)…
i sure wouldn’t like to see anything bad happen to family[1…n]
You’ve misread the passive language here. ‘no prints were recovered’ can mean that they tried to find prints and couldn’t, or that they never even bothered to try getting prints off the gun.
i didn’t, i noted that the presence of prints on the notebook implies an effort to obtain fingerprints on things. the gun description is particularly good for collecting prints, and i know all sorts of random things could explain that otherwise… i do find it curious, however
It could also mean no print were recovered other than his obviously which they may have just not bothered to mention
Yeah that’s the obvious answer here, his finger was on the gun so his prints were there too…
Also, people need to understand that not everything you touch will 100% have your fingerprints.
I’ll admit, this irks me in mystery shows. Those don’t seem like something you’d reliably get.
“Sir, just as you predicted, we found the kitchen knife in the third drainage grate of the northern side of the city sewage system, wrapped loosely in five layers of cheesecloth, wadded with human waste. And, we’ve performed a DNA and fingerprint analysis on the handle. The prints perfectly match your suspect, sir!”
Let me get this straight. You think somebody else wiped down the fingerprints on the gun, shot him, and then stuck his finger on the trigger without thinking about creating any fingerprints? Does seem like someone half-assed the wrong step of that operation…
seems like it…
Somebody wiped it. Even if the victim had prior to the act, there would still be his prints. So it seem to have been wiped after the shot.
the most interesting part to me is that nowhere along the line did anyone mention just how interesting it all is. you know the real bad shit has started when the press shuts up and universities bend over and one of the richest people in the fucking world has to re-think his pricing displays because it pissed off the King.
edit to add - he put a fucking tax on british tea without congress. that’s a taxation without representation. on british fucking tea.
Jeffrey Epstein. Imagine how many people whose names you haven’t heard just randomly committed suicide one day. Or had an accident. Or just disappeared.
Victoria Giuffre more recently in regards to Epstein.
she also said quite publicly that she’s not suicidal and she would never do that to her family, and if that happened she was suicided…
Yeah I know. Sadly this doesn’t get any bigger media representation.
I had thought she was in renal failure and her ex husband wouldn’t let her see her kids
who I do remember is Brock Turner, yes that guy… the rapist Brock Turner. who now goes by the name of Allen Turner. that guy
You mean the pathetic rapist Brock Turner, who now goes by Allen Turner (also a pathetic rapist)?
Well I certainly won’t be purchasing any Boeing products in the near future.
I mean, good luck getting across the country without any airplane tickets.
It’s not that difficult. Just takes some extra time.
Just fly an airline that doesn’t use Boeing that much like Frontier, Avelo, Hawaiian Airlines, JetBlue, Spirit.
I’d rather support murder than fly Spirit.
Ah yes “the country” that everyone lives in
surely by “the country” you mean 1 of the european ones with easy access to a fantastic network of very comfortable and fast high speed rail
A lot of new .world users showing up with ChatGPT responses about how this was a conspiracy
Reminds me of the Epstein thing. It could be AI. But people do love their conspiracy theories, too.
Unless there’s actual evidence that it’s AI, I think this is an absolutely absurd assumption to make.
I’d be more likely to believe that Boeing tried to kill him if he didn’t die
