McIntire, a 19-year-old student at Boston’s University of Massachusetts, appeared in federal court Friday and has been charged with one count of unlawful possession of an unregistered destructive device and one count of malicious damage by fire of any property used in interstate commerce.
I used to drive on State Line past that lot full of Teslas daily, always saw a ton of Cybertrucks just sitting. Once Musk started getting so much (more) hate I figured it was a matter of time before someone torched it.
Also, I always find it funny how it’s totally just a road that divides the states, I’d drive to work and be “in” Missouri and drive home “in” Kansas lol
I work in KS and live in MO. Love paying income tax in two states! /s
It’s honestly better if that inventory sits on the lot unpurchased. It costs them money to store it and it looks bad for them having old inventory around months or even years out of date. Torching it just gives them a nice insurance payout.
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Plenty of fiction media describes how you should treat collaborators
him* possibly them*
-The article says the suspects full name is “Owen McIntire” being the only hint to suspect gender.
I kinda both like and dislike that something as arbitrary as long hair and no beard can cause this kind of debate. In the '80s, the assumption probably would’ve just been that they’re a fan of hair metal lol.
I like it because it means that it’s a lot easier to bend gender norms (and be seen as bending gender norms) than I thought and it also just proves how full of shit people are when they claim they “can tell” and that at least half of their perception of the world is dictated by their culture.
I dislike it for the same reasons though. Because it means that this world is still a lot more puritanical and prone to pearl clutching than I thought. It means that boys with long hair who don’t like sports are going to be getting beaten up and bullied for being ‘gay’ or whatever. It means that sightly butch women won’t be able to use public bathrooms without judgmental, psychotic people wanting to make that woman’s genitals their own business. It means that I’m living in a world with people who still think in terms of long hair = girl, who haven’t ever expanded their minds or considered that their own cultural norms don’t apply to everyone in the slightest.
Wow. You about summed up my experience but in the late 90’s, early 00’s. Good work!
“Leave the multi billion dollar company alone unsheaths plastic katana”
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Snitches get stitches.
America does have a greater than zero percentage of spineless bootlickers, more interested in upvotes and likes than their own freedom, unfortunately.
Don’t get captured
Lesson learned, I guess. If she had only set fire to the Capitol in support of an insurrection in support of the far right, she’d be up for a pardon.
Damn if that’s what happens for hurting a car might as well go after the man
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What thee heck is a destructive device? A can of petrol? This is ludicrous, double and triple charging people.
Too bad he wasn’t a right wing kid shooting liberal protestors to death because he’d be hailed as a hero and given awards and tv appearances.
Needs to cry in court first
If we ever get another President not named Trump this will be pardoned instantly.
two Tesla Cybertrucks worth more than $100,000
Doubt
I mean, it looks like a new cyber truck starts at $62k right now. They’re not wrong, but that’s no reason to completely ruin this girl’s life, she’s already paying for college…
What they are worth is what someone is willing to pay for it, not what Tesla prices it at.
They aren’t selling: Cybertruck Isn’t Selling So Tesla Shifts Production To What Actually Sells
Even Tesla doesn’t want them and refuses them as trade-ins but will take other cars so its not a problem with trade-ins in general: Tesla Is So Cooked That It’s Now Refusing to Accept Cybertrucks as Trade-Ins
but that’s no reason to completely ruin this
girl’sguy’s life, she’s already paying for college…We agree on this.
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Noted and changed, thanks
They really are this dumb.
They think this will discourage targeted destruction of an oligarch? Decades for worthless cars?
If you get decades for that- make sure to get the rest of the lot. Bonus points for for a factory.
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Tough talk from a keyboard warrior. I expect the next act of civil disobedience to be tagged “this one is for Lemmy fam” or you’re full of it.
Nothing but false bravado from russian subversive operators as far as I see.
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So, you’re saying only incompetent people espouse violence on social media? I’d agree with that except the person I’m criticizing is not american so I cannot in good conscience presume incompetence.
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Why would you ask someone to do this? I like this place. I’d rather not see that happen.
Human beings are being pushed too far right now in America. I would have a healthier fear of it than you seem to.
Conversely to shut them up. It’s all impotent frustration that isn’t going to pan out to shit. Real gradeschoolers in the playground vibes.
I wouldn’t call your fear healthy until it is about something happening. Right now you’re empowering their BS tbh so some self-reflection might be in order on your part.
It’s bigger grade schooler on the playground vibes that you feel the need to chime in insulting strangers.
Careful now or I’ll raise my virtual fist in the air and you’ll be quaking in your boots for the rest of the day.
I mean, arson itself is usually punished very harshly because it can easily get out of control and kill people (and most of those laws predate modern fire safety standards). It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla’s that don’t have harsh punishments associated with them. Or if you do, try not to get caught.
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I’m talking about why arson in general has harsher penalties compared to other forms of property crime, I’m not talking about specific instances.
It might be a good idea to look for alternative ways to vandalise Tesla’s that don’t have harsh punishments associated with them.
One popular method of destroying cybertrucks is simply treating them like a normal car. Perhaps Owen should have vandalized their neighbor’s car by giving it a good rinse? That tends to brick these dumpsters
I really don’t like jury duty. And would do plenty to get out of it. If I got called for this one. I would happily nullify it as hard as I could.
No you would not. You would find that she is not guilty.
Only if nullification was not a possibility. Nullification sends a much stronger and important message. Namely we don’t give a fuck if they’re guilty or not. Because this is a bullshit show trial that does not have Justice in mind. Yes I’m aware prosecutors often ask for the largest applicable sentence possible eventually negotiating down. That doesn’t make this any less bullshit.
What you’re describing has a name, and that name is nullification.
No it’s not. Discussing nullification would get be booted off a jury. However, if considering all the facts, I were to vote not guilty, it would not.
Think whatever you like but jury nullification is when a juror votes “not guilty” when they actually think someone is guilty of a law that they disagree with.
Okay. Apparently you think I’m fighting you for no reason. Is it nullification? Yes. Don’t call it that. Don’t talk about that. Because it will get you booted off a jury.
Haha, I mean, we’re definitely arguing over semantics but you’re saying something equivalent to, “No, don’t eat ice cream. Put some in your mouth and then swallow it, but don’t eat. We never eat.”
Except the point is that if you say you would eat ice cream, you don’t get the ice cream. Legally speaking as a juror you are supposed to uphold the law. If the judge or prosecutor has any inkling you might nullify, they’ll boot your ass out of the pool in a hurry.
On the plus side mentioning Jury Nullification during the selection process on a case you do not want anything to do with and they will cut you so fast your head will be spinning. Just knowing about it makes you a threat to the prosecutors.
Oh, great! Now Donald will be like, “we’ll need to look in to BU. We believe they are harboring terrorist.”
I’m not a lawyer but the feds claiming it as a federal case because cars could be used in interstate commerce seems lame. Should be a Missouri case, not a federal case.
Oh boy you are late to the party. The interstate commerce clause has been twisted for decades to basically allow a Federal hook for anything to exist.
In this case however, I think the Destructive Device charge alone would have sufficed as the hook.
The rule of law isn’t important anymore.
The rule of law is dead. Enter the age of action and consequence.
They are pushing for federal because it involved Elonazi’s Swasticars.
Bullshit expansion of the commerce clause has been ongoing for at least 100 years.
c.f. Swift & Co, 1905 (?) and Wickard 1942
I loves me Wickard v. Filburn which held that a farm not doing interstate commerce could be regulated by the Commerce Clause because the lack of commerce affected interstate commerce.
How can you possibly blame this kid when Cybertrucks have been known to self-immolate? They have faulty batteries that catch on fire left and right; the rustbucket was likely already on fire before he got there.
Yeah, it’s like prosecuting women for miscarriages. Oh wait.
If the Federal government takes over prosecution the big charge is going to be that Destructive Device charge which looks to be up to 10 years. It seems unlikely the sentence imposed would be even close to the max on everything, media loves to report maximums as if they are what gets handed down, but that’s just media being dramatic.
I’d really love media articles to actually explain sentencing in detail on articles where they just throw around numbers without explaining them.
