That’s too bad, it saved me from a few toxic work places
Glassdoor “may update your Profile with information we obtain from third parties”
Imagine Reddit does this next lmao one day you open up and all your real life social media are linked to your u/Lick_My_Fuckhole profile, your coworkers see you as “people you may know” on their profiles. Neat
Didn’t Google+ do that?
It’s been so long since that debacle I honestly don’t remember.
Google+ was a Facebook-like social media. It was only ever supposed to be real names, so no issue.
Worse, StarCraft tried it lol. Major blizzard fuckup
YouTube did it when Google bought them and changed everyone’s unique username to their Google account (real) name
Looks like they prodded but didn’t unilaterally force.
wtf that’s a terrible decision lol
Facebook did it as well, maybe a couple years after opening up to the non university crowd. Neither FB at the time or G+ years later gave any thought that their no pseudonym policies put someone’s safety at risk.
I mainly use reddit now for porn. Maybe a good way to get into a freak fetish ring…
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At least my coworkers will know how I really feel.
Yikes
Oh wow, that’s dangerous.
Glassdoor is little more than a shakedown service like Yelp or Tripadvisor. It looks superficially useful but the real purpose is to suck information out of users to monetize, and extort businesses for $$$ for review “curation”.
Everyone thinking this was a business blunder… People got paid a lot of money to kill this site. It served in its own small way, to give workers a bit of power in relation to employers and that was unacceptable.
Yeah, this reeks of generic neoliberal sabotage to me. They do the same thing with unions and political parties. If anything is a potential threat to profits, it’s infiltrated and undermined.
There’s simply no way that a team focused on employee rights does something like this. Everybody working there would definitely be aware that companies routinely try to identify and punish people for their posts. That alone would end any non-malicious plans for using real names.
I take it as stage 2 of enshittification?
Highly recommend at least trying to poison your data before deactivating/deleting; they have some legalese that gives them a workaround to keep things to an extent
Note: When you close your account, you will no longer have full access to salaries, reviews, or interviews. Any content you have shared will be removed from the display on the site, but we reserve the right to keep any information in a closed account in our archives that we deem necessary to comply with our legal and regulatory obligations, resolve disputes, and enforce our agreements. For more information, review our Privacy & Cookie Policy.
True, but keep in mind they likely have backups of everything. If you do this all at once it will probably be noticed and they might just roll it all back when you are gone. Case in point, reddit. If you do this slowly maybe it will stay, not sure.
Even if they know, burnt out software engineers with other priorities are probably not recovering old data
The data is never getting deleted in the first place, “delete” just needs to set a flag for non-visibility. The language used in their disclaimer leads me to believe exactly that is what is happening.
Unless some exec has a meltdown and demands them to revert the site
That’s usually a monumental undertaking for sites that are majority database-driven like Glassdoor. Think multiple regional databases.
I doubt they delete anything. Just add a flag to the datastore so users don’t see it, but they can still sell it or train AI on it or whatever.
I’ve never seen much reason to use a real name on Glassdoor. They demand visitors sign up to see information, and every logon it demands more details. So I am glad I used a throwaway account and I expect many others did too, or filled it in with junk. I hope their database is poisoned with garbage. I’m sure they will continue to turn the screws - using a mobile device? You MUST use our app etc. I hope people realise that LinkedIn already sucks and here is something even worse moving into the same space.
You also need to be careful when deleting your account - when you do, they’ll send you a “there was an issue with your request” email that tries to get you to register again by prompting you to “log in” to fix it. The log in is creating a password for a new account.
Really? Wild
Just deleted my account. I hardly used it anyway, so good job pushing me off the edge Glassdoor.
By Lemmy standards I’m perversely unconcerned with my privacy. But I just updated all my glassdoor info to wildly incorrect stuff (name, location, industry, job title, etc) then deleted it. Even for me this is a bridge too far.
Mike Hawk, CEO of Nunya
Luke Skywalker, Chief Financial Officer of Initech
Remember when YouTube had a use full real name policy? Thinking it would improve content quality and would stop harassment etc. Yeah, didn’t quite work out at all and thankfully they let the policy fizzle.
Also Blizzard “real ID” lol
Is this a US change as im not seeing names in the UK version
I give it a full 4 days before an opensource alternative is announced
It could almost be a Lemmy instance really. Not entirely serious, but… each community would be the name of a company where people could go to discuss and remain truly anonymous. The sidebar could be the general summary of the company.
Glasswall incoming
Glass ceiling
I like the idea but that’s a whole other level of potential interactivity than Glassdoor, and a big responsibility for whoever will be hosting it. Anonymity would have to be guaranteed in some way…
Seriously. Facebook for corporate dickholes turns to shit. Who knew
Wait, what happened to LinkedIn?
I did a CCPA data deletion request. Fuckers.
What is this and how is it done?
California Consumer Privacy Act. It gives consumers the right to tell companies to delete all data they have about you.
For glassdoor, that option is here, in their privacy requests page. Note the language “request” is just politeness for California residents - they must by law delete this info. While it’s only the law for California residents, it looks like Glassdoor offers this option to everyone.
This is one of the most obvious potential cases of purposeful sabatoge. They were probably bribed by other big businesses to destroy their reputation so people would stop using the site.
There’s nothing businesses hate more than their workers having negotiating power, and wage transparency gives them more power than they had before. There’s a reason why it’s considered “rude” in the US to discuss wages with co-workers; I always make a point to discuss my wage with all of my co-workers, since it’s illegal for businesses to prevent that discussion.
In most other countries, it’s the norm to openly discuss your wages; unions are also more common in other countries. It’s just standard toxic workplace cultures trying to prevent people from getting paid what they’re worth, or god forbid, forming a union.
Or
Think about it for more than 1 second.
They’ve been sued for liable.
Or
They’re being shit and creating a new revenue stream because constant growth and bonuses
Or
Read the article
From the article that they acquired a professional social networking app so their intention is clearly to be like LinkedIn - real names, links, career history, “social”. They want to monetize that information to sell to recruiters and salesmen.
So basically they’re nakedly greedy and they continue to suck. I thought LinkedIn was awful but Glassdoor is a whole new level of awful.
While I see what you are seeing, I think people will just move to the next startup.
Also by Occam’s razor, don’t explain with malice what you can explain with stupidity
Fair point, but I’m wondering which part you were applying Occam’s razor to - what Glassdoor did is clearly malicious!
That would be Hanlons razor. I have no idea whether it applies here.
To the part that they were bribed.
I think they are simply in the pipe dream that they will become the new LinkedIn
Hanlon’s razor.
In what countries is it custom to openly discuss salary? In Germany and most if not all countries I’ve been to professionally it is not the norm. This is of course bad for transparency/employees and good for employers.
Where I live we don’t really discuss salaries and I think that mostly comes down to society being tricked into believing it’s a bad thing. However our national statistics agency has made salary statistics public, which means anyone easily check their salary range and see if they’re being underpaid. I actually prefer that to discussing with co-workers because you end up getting a much better picture of your industry.
In my country I’m only aware of statistics published by a newspaper (source may be statista, some agency or a job portal). I find the values weird however as I earn way above the stated value for my general description. I’m in a bit of a niche however so that might work to my benefit. The statistics still feel like ‘expectation management’ to me though.
In China, “How much do you make?” Is right up there with “What’s your name?”.
Pretty disarming for unsuspecting foreigners.
Pretty disarming for unsuspecting foreigners.
That would indeed be a WTF moment for me.
All of scandinavia. There are public registers where you can look up the salary of everyone for norway, sweden and finland. When these registers were introduced, the salaries were normalized across the whole population
I like the idea of a register a lot.
Do you also talk about it though? I was in Denmark on business for a couple of weeks and I don’t recall there being a discussion about it.
In Denmark, I’m part of a union which publishes salary stats for every possible job title, management responsibility, education, in a fairly convoluted matrix. Still, this allows me to easily negotiate with companies and see how well they pay. There might be something organised by the government, but I’ve never had a need for it.
Germany has a principle of equal treatment. The only way to ensure this is respected is to discuss wages. There is a legal precedent that makes it completely unambiguous that discussing wages is protected. It may be uncomfortable, but that’s just social pressure, encouraged by companies.
Not denying that it’s legal and beneficial to discuss that. It’s unfortunately not common (yet?).
Do you know when it became illegal to ban salary discussions in the US? All the companies I have worked for recently have mentioned it not being allowed at some point.
You cannot prevent your employees from discussing wages. It is literally illegal to do so, and you cannot reprimand people for doing so.
Under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA or the Act), employees have the right to communicate with their coworkers about their wages, as well as with labor organizations, worker centers, the media, and the public. Wages are a vital term and condition of employment, and discussions of wages are often preliminary to organizing or other actions for mutual aid or protection.
If you are an employee covered by the Act, you may discuss wages in face-to-face conversations, over the phone, and in written messages. Policies that specifically prohibit the discussion of wages are unlawful as are policies that chill employees from discussing their wages.
You may have discussions about wages when not at work, when you are on break, and even during work if employees are permitted to have other non-work conversations. You have these rights whether or not you are represented by a union.
https://www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/your-rights/your-rights-to-discuss-wages
But you are still an at will employee and they can fire your for anything else for any reason at any time with little recourse unless a lawyer will take your case and they almost never do. They won’t fire you for talking about your wages but suddenly you get bad reviews and get laid off.
You didn’t get laid off because you discussed your wages.
You were laid off because you couldn’t keep your cards close to your chest and told the company y’all had been discussing wages.
Having the right to discuss it doesn’t mean you should do it in front of the boss.
concerted organizing activity is protected under the law. talking about it with your boss yourself is not organizing activity. talking about it with a coworker in front of your boss is.
this is what a job journal is for. it would prove what happened.
I wish I could believe in the system like you do. Have you ever tried to get justice in the US?
the law that protected concerted organizing activity is the same that took the teeth out of the unions. i want to see that law abolished, but i’m an anarchist, so i want them all gone.
If you get suddenly laid off after doing a legally protected activity, you do have very direct recourse.
Judges aren’t generally stupid, nor is the national labor board. If you do a legal thing companies hate and are suddenly fired out of the blue, it’s very obvious what happened, no matter what the comapny claims. It may take time and effort, but you very may get back paid the fof the entire time you were fired.
Doesn’t need to be suddenly. That said it isn’t as easy as you state. I’ve tried to get recourse and no one would even take my case because of made up bad reviews they’ve been keeping for years. At the place I used to work at the managers were not allowed to give everyone good reviews, 1/3 of the company got bad reviews every quarter. This is how corporations like cough capital one cough deal with this and get you out.
It’s not illegal. It’s frown upon both socially and at the work culture. It makes people uncomfortable.
Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. Ripping farts is frowned upon/makes people uncomfortable too.
There is also the growing difficulty of disseminating real information from false information, but that should have been more the reviewed company’s problem than Glassdoor.
Man, people love to make up conspiracy theories.
The article explains the motivation, which is also bad and plausible. There’s no need to pull stuff out of your ass to explain it too.
Account deleted. I’d love to see the exodus data trends from this decision.
I just deleted mine too.
seems like they have legal work around . fuck them honestly.
All I have in mine is my email address. The rest is made up garbage
