Me walking into the thread…
Lol I made the lemmitors really mad and they think I care about their downvotes and opinions on a shitposting sub, its the most fun I had all day at work while I get paid.
You WORK? FOR THE CORPORATE OVERLORDS!?! YOU FIEND!
As they say, if you felt the need to make multiple comments on it…
My app lets me know when I get bites so I just responded lol. The best part about this thread is I’m a villain on hexbear, I started a struggle session so tense it almost collapsed their site. Us vegans are dicks.
Ok buddy. Whatever you say.
Just learned that’s Jason Mamoa
sorry for being out of the loop but what does defederating do? why is it so controversial?!
Defederating means that if your instance defederates another, that other server’s content will not be propagated into your instance. Therefore blocking all content from that other server into yours.
It means Hamid has to make another account
I thought this place was for shitposting, not whining. Nope, looks like I was wrong – rules say ‘Vents and Banter’ too…
RESUME YOUR ACTIVITIES PEOPLE!
You spelled feces incorrectly. LOL
I’ve only ever seen the term “feefees” used by people whining over facing the completely predictable consequences of their actions
Op is the doppelganger Karen of Lemmy. Complaining to everyone but the administration about something they are clearly wrong about.
You mean the people calling for defederation? yes they are losers with predictable consequences
Oh look, he willfully distorts things too! Tell me about free speech next so I can complete my bingo card
Boohoo I need mommy and daddy to protect me from posts on the fediverse WAAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAH
- You
Before I block you I’ll be kind and make one genuine attempt to help you learn:
Just like nobody is required to invite you into their home, nobody is required to listen to you either. And nobody is required to let you loiter on their property (the server) and act like a douche to their guests (the users).
You are facing the consequences of your actions. People don’t like you and instead of considering why that might be and adjusting, you simply complain that people are kicking you out of the party.
You are not owed an audience. You do not have a right to be heard.
Then block the instance?
I’m really don’t understand the calls for defederation. Lemmy added per-user instance blocking so people could stop whining and block the instance. There’s no need to have the entire instance defederate instead of just blocking it.
Just think about a user making a post to whatever admin community for their instance. That takes so much more work than just blocking the instance.
Because deplatforming works. Because tolerating intolerance eventually results in the tolerant being extinguished.
If I’m hosting a party and there’s a Nazi on my front lawn, I don’t care if I and my guests can mute them, block them, whatever. I’m going to get rid of them. I don’t want new guests seeing them when they arrive. I don’t want every single person to have to be exposed to the Nazis first before they can then block them out. I don’t want the Nazis to exist at all. Nazis don’t deserve to exist. We went to war to kill Nazis and I’d vote to do it again if I could.
It’s our house. Our community. No. Fucking. Nazis. No toxicity. We don’t have to suffer them to exist.
I literally do not care what you think on lemmyshitpost loser, People are mad about hexbear which I just ignore, you can too. Most of all though I just think you are a whiny bitch. Please block me and spare me having to read your stupid bullshit ever again
You play a lot of call of duty don’t you?
Not really, video games are for losers and I’d rather shoot myself in the face than waste my free time larping as a US imperial shitbag.
Bro aren’t you on Lemmy.world?
You’re already defederated from Hexbear, you don’t have to ignore it
The karens want to defederate from lemmy.ml because of being a “proxy” of hexbear. It is the most ridiculous thing I ever read and is so painfully reddit I had to make a shit post.
OP when he’s the one taking the heat from the instance and the admins everyone complained about from experience:
Nice selfie of you calling mommy to protect you from the 15 year old hexbears
I literally moved instances and blocked their shit so fast that your head is still spinning. All on my own. Idk what you’re on about, hunty, maybe some personal experience of yours.
I really don’t know who you are or care about you at all, why are you telling me this?
why are you telling me this?
I’m just saying that your assumption is wrong. But calm down, we’re having fun here, unless…
You are the ones downvoting this like it matters and getting your panties in a bunch about a group of annoying losers on hexbear. I don’t need an admin to protect me from them I have a block list.
getting your panties in a bunch
Are we now? lol I’m pretty calm and posting memes but you seem on edge.
I have a block list
Yeah, me too, and it’s about a foot long. But it’s almost as if people have other concerns when they call for defederation and they’re not just running to mommy. Idk, maybe something to consider.
Dude, I really don’t care what you think, why are you trying so hard
biggest cringe you can find online is people bragging about how many people they blocked.
ah nice to know you are a snowflake, why are you self owning about this?The biggest cringe you can find is you and your life, god it must be terrible to be you and I’m sorry you have your life.
this comment made me try to self reflect but the image of myself in the mirror made me die of cringe.
I’m impressed. You’re so insufferable that you’ve managed to piss off both Tankies and the people who hate Tankies.
Thank you for posting this though. This thread has managed to reaffirm my faith in Lemmy users. It’s a relief to see that people who bitch about mods and “hurt feefees” are still ridiculed.
It’s a shame, almost. After reading through this thread, I get the distinct impression there would’ve been much more spicy takes for you to die on. But, c’est la vie.
Who is dead? I’ll be back lol
I’m not a tankie
Hahahahahahahahhahaa!!!
When the shit post is agenda post 😔
Yes my evil agenda to not restrict the posts I subscribe to on my home instance. To not have every leftist and non-American point of view removed from the largest lemmy instance and to not be subject to an American neoliberal consensus? I’m guilty. Sorry!
I just don’t understand why everyone wants to defederate and was having a shitposty time collecting downvotes. Why? Because this literally doesn’t matter. There are plenty of tools on lemmy to deal with annoyances including creating your own instances, the subscribed tab, block lists, and lots of stuff that this beta software has in the works on the roadmap. All in all people are taking everything way too seriously for what this is, hobby software run by amateurs and individual people not corporations for sharing links on software that isn’t anywhere near being complete.
Does moderation suck? Maybe, who cares? Tomorrow is a whole other day of more posts. If you really want to create a new comm on a new instance and do a better job than lemmy.ml, Do it! Ruud did it, you know who isn’t? The people grandstanding and downvoting.
There is so much negativity surrounding Lemmy it is surreal and way out of bounds for what this actually is. This is why I joke around and post weed memes and sometimes poke a bear. Everyone needs to chill the fuck out. And if you think this is Russian propaganda or whatever that is fine.
Omg you’re that hypocritical guy that was complaining about people complaining too much about Hexbear. You seriously put your take out there, got ratioed, and now you’re making a post about how people shouldn’t argue in favor of defederation? It’s one thing to say “I don’t think we should defederate from this particular instance” but to complain about people talking about it is far outside the bounds of reason.
I think you’re a Hexbear person in masquerade because you’re using the weird faux first principles argument style that conservatives and tankies use along with the disengenuous reframing tactics of trolls. People are allowed to care about things that you don’t, and they can argue in favor of things you don’t like. I find it amazing how you accused me of being a child, and now I think you were projecting.
Dude I really don’t care what you think or say. I caused such a shitstorm on Hexbear I got banned before federation was a thing. Look up vegan circlejerk.
I am just bored and think this is fun. This is quite literally a shitpost. You want to ratio me? Go ahead I don’t care. I can post whatever I want where ever I want and say whatever I want. The downvotes do not matter to anyone but you and I think you are a loser. You are talking about conservatives and tankies? Mother fucker I just want some posts on my feed for kicks, post some meme bullshit and get high as balls. This is what you are taking so seriously, a man who literally doses with high strength thc and makes people mad on purpose because you neoliberal Americans are the most thin skinned pathetic dorks on the planet. Touch grass.
Dude I really don’t care what you think or say.
Sure.
I am just bored and think this is fun.
Ok, so you admit it; you’re a disingenuous troll. Blocked.
Oh noo whatever will I do with you and your lame ass blocking me. I’m literally crying right now
I get the sense that it’s really not about people having leftist or non American points of views removed, but that people are sick of the extreme shit they post and their attitudes. And it’s seemingly entire instances dedicated to being that extreme, not just some individual users.
Personally though, since users have the tools now to block instances, I don’t think there’s really as much of a need to defederate unless the instance is specifically doing something more than just posting their views. So I agree with you there. Except that having to go out of your way to block stuff like that makes for an experience that isn’t always great. And for me it’s been something that doesn’t really make me want to participate or use the platform much.
Every one of your comments in the past 2 months has been a complaint, If you don’t want to participate, don’t.
Ouch, stalked my profile for your response here. And its not even true.
But yea, calling me out for complaining when your whole post is a complaint. Good job. You are definitely part of the reason I dont participate much on lemmy.
In a 2 second browse I saw you complaining about sync and literally saying the same thing about not wanting to participate. Good for you, do you want a cookie?
Most upvoted Lemmy post I’ve seen since joining and OP is getting blasted in the comments by people missing the point.
a lot of people here seem to have an us-centric kinda mentality
A lot of people start bleeding something besides human rights and the marketplace of ideas when you scratch them
reported
I just want to defederate myself from yiff instances and that one where the owner is using bots to pull threads from /r/overwatch to their own instance. I mean, you do you, but I just don’t want to see it on my feed.
Wasn’t this an option that was supposed to be added?
Excuse me, don’t mind me. I just came to receive my downvote from OP like everyone else.
I’m really upset someone finally downvoted you. I resisted.
Being entirely untouched was what made it funniest. Welp, joke’s over. Everyone go home.
Ok this one made me chuckle
OP sounds like a jerk, but he’s not wrong. The calls for de-federation are about as ubiquitous as reports in online gaming.
De-federation should not be taken lightly. It undermines the whole point of Lemmy. It magnifies the shitty people on your server (you aren’t locked in there with them. They are locked in there with you). It promotes echo chambering and limits external viewpoints that help us form good opinions. It makes the server boring.
Don’t do it
What about threads?
IMO threads should be defederated on principle. Having a massive and evil corporation like Facebook here goes completely against the spirit of the protocol.
Yeah except Echo Chamber paranoia is completely unfounded
It’s been proven that social media companies defy human social behavior and intentionally force you to see more content that will lead you to encounter “the opposing view”, not out of some inherent Grade A Grillin’ centrist urge to make everyone play nice, but because they know damn well that it drives up engagement from everyone being at each other’s throats in these forced encounters.
See also why you just cannot seem to escape tangentially seeing content related to users you blocked on Instagram or keep getting recommended users from in their social orbit that you “might know”.
The truth is that the ability to just ignore people who you don’t want to engage with is what keeps society peaceful most of the time, because going out of your way to force contact with people who disagree with you isn’t breaking down your personal barriers it’s laying the groundwork for a restraining order.
Hexbear and to a lesser degree ML and grad evoke the fear of becoming the Nazi bar, but for tankies.
If many new users land on “all” and sees a bunch of crazy posts, and dogpiled Engel posting on every mention of the west, they are gonna just leave.
If everyone is cool being known as a home of ultra leftist, often drifting into true tankie autocrat worship, then so be it.
I’m aware who built Lemmy and so on, no need to recite the lore.
If people want to discuss defederation there’s nothing wrong with that.
At first I disagreed about your characterization of OP based on just this post, but then I saw the comments on this thread.
Anyways, I also think defedding will cause a problem. It might even cause this platform as a whole to fail or to have one site rise and be the main site which is the opposite of what this is all about.
I was all ready to rush in and defend him for getting downvoted, but he’s asking for it.
I was joking and having a laugh at people who take the internet way too seriously, lighten up this place is for shitposting remember. I thought this whole thread was funny
It really, really depends on the instance’s users. So long as they’re tolerable, there’s rarely a reason to defederate. If you host mostly trolls, spam, illegal photos, or hateful content, tolerating it is unnecessary. I’m not here to interact exclusively with folks who seek only to regress my understanding, personally.
Relatedly, the most delightful folks exist on a broadly defederated instance, beehaw. Also relatedly, solarpunk hosts my second favorite userbase. You guys are fantastic.
Yeah, most instances should remain federated even if they’re somewhat distasteful. Just the extremes and harassers like Hexbear and lemmy.ml should be defederated.
I dislike lemmy.ml having an unwritten code of conduct upheld via admins but that really doesn’t extend outside their instance. Their users are largely fine so I’m fine with the instance. I do avoid their communities, though. Those are unpleasant due to the code of conduct.
Do you mean lemmygrad?
No, I mean lemmy.ml
It’s absolutely chock full of authoritarian propaganda and aggressive users. I abandoned an old account because they followed me around and downvoted everything I posted.
I love the idea of the Fediverse and want to see it thrive to the point where Facebook and the other corporate social media fail. I don’t think that’ll ever happen while aggressive propaganda instances like lemmy.ml are so prominent.
Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad about ran by the developers. Lemmygrad is the extreme version of ml.
I love the concept of the fediverse but there are many people who just want to troll people. It needs some diversity of ideas to be successful long term
Just selfhost an instance and be your own admin.
Yeah, screw you. I’m gonna start my own instance,with blackjack and hookers.
I’m gonna start my own instance,with blackjack and hookers.
And I’m gonna start my own with the sole purpose to defederate from yours!
And I’m gonna start my own with the sole purpose to defederate from yours!
Bite my shiny metal instance server.
That’s a pretty meh solution. You need to sub to everything to populate your federated tab and then your federated tab becomes a tell of what you subbed to.
That’s a valid point, but at the same time I get in my feed what I wanna folloe, and not random things so I end up spending more time on lemmy I ever did on reddit.
That’s a plus for me.
One thing I love about Lemmy is being able to remind people they can just start their own instance if they have issues with how things are being moderated.
People could create their own subs and run them as their personal fiefdoms on Reddit yet it didn’t stop the usual bitching about mods.
I think the difference here is a lot of mods on Reddit are very protective about their userbase. I’ve seen promotion of a new community viewed as spam and self promotion whereas on Lemmy people don’t really seem to care. You need it to be a two way street for things like better federation
It probably helps there aren’t a ton of mega-mods here running 30 similar communities and only linking to them
