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This was most apparent when people were shrieking about tankies. Seemed like redditors trying to recreate reddit on the fediverse.
Well tankies are the fuckin worst and you should block me if you disagree
Tankies are pretty annoying, but what’s much more annoying to me now is people whinging on about tankies that aren’t even there. The amount of comments to the effect of “just wait for the tankies to read this and do (X)” vastly out numbers the number of comments I see from actual tankies. More often than not, those tankies fail to ever materialize.
“that aren’t even the”
Because mods are doing their job or they’re not federated with the communities you instances in…
At least on Lemmy.world, it’s now visible when comments are removed. It’s not uncommon that I see multiple comments complaining about what the tankies are going to do and few to no removed comments. Given Lemmy.world is also the instance whose members I see gripe about tankies the most, I currently believe it’s just people using an out group to achieve some sort of personal goal, even if it’s just as simple as wanting to comment but not really having a lot to say.
Are you aware that lemmy.world has defederated from lemmygrad and hexbear which means you won’t see any comments from them even if they’re all over the thread?
Well yeah often the true tankieposting OFF ml hex or grad gets removed by mods
And often they DM you a mountain of shit from like 5 accounts, or invoke you in their local “dunktank” threads.
If people don’t have them blocked out, it can be pretty annoying.
I thought this place was for shitposting, not whining. Nope, looks like I was wrong – rules say ‘Vents and Banter’ too…
RESUME YOUR ACTIVITIES PEOPLE!
You spelled feces incorrectly. LOL
I’ve only ever seen the term “feefees” used by people whining over facing the completely predictable consequences of their actions
Op is the doppelganger Karen of Lemmy. Complaining to everyone but the administration about something they are clearly wrong about.
You mean the people calling for defederation? yes they are losers with predictable consequences
Oh look, he willfully distorts things too! Tell me about free speech next so I can complete my bingo card
Boohoo I need mommy and daddy to protect me from posts on the fediverse WAAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAH
- You
Before I block you I’ll be kind and make one genuine attempt to help you learn:
Just like nobody is required to invite you into their home, nobody is required to listen to you either. And nobody is required to let you loiter on their property (the server) and act like a douche to their guests (the users).
You are facing the consequences of your actions. People don’t like you and instead of considering why that might be and adjusting, you simply complain that people are kicking you out of the party.
You are not owed an audience. You do not have a right to be heard.
I literally do not care what you think on lemmyshitpost loser, People are mad about hexbear which I just ignore, you can too. Most of all though I just think you are a whiny bitch. Please block me and spare me having to read your stupid bullshit ever again
You play a lot of call of duty don’t you?
Not really, video games are for losers and I’d rather shoot myself in the face than waste my free time larping as a US imperial shitbag.
Bro aren’t you on Lemmy.world?
You’re already defederated from Hexbear, you don’t have to ignore it
The karens want to defederate from lemmy.ml because of being a “proxy” of hexbear. It is the most ridiculous thing I ever read and is so painfully reddit I had to make a shit post.
Then block the instance?
I’m really don’t understand the calls for defederation. Lemmy added per-user instance blocking so people could stop whining and block the instance. There’s no need to have the entire instance defederate instead of just blocking it.
Just think about a user making a post to whatever admin community for their instance. That takes so much more work than just blocking the instance.
Because deplatforming works. Because tolerating intolerance eventually results in the tolerant being extinguished.
If I’m hosting a party and there’s a Nazi on my front lawn, I don’t care if I and my guests can mute them, block them, whatever. I’m going to get rid of them. I don’t want new guests seeing them when they arrive. I don’t want every single person to have to be exposed to the Nazis first before they can then block them out. I don’t want the Nazis to exist at all. Nazis don’t deserve to exist. We went to war to kill Nazis and I’d vote to do it again if I could.
It’s our house. Our community. No. Fucking. Nazis. No toxicity. We don’t have to suffer them to exist.
OP when he’s the one taking the heat from the instance and the admins everyone complained about from experience:
Nice selfie of you calling mommy to protect you from the 15 year old hexbears
I literally moved instances and blocked their shit so fast that your head is still spinning. All on my own. Idk what you’re on about, hunty, maybe some personal experience of yours.
I really don’t know who you are or care about you at all, why are you telling me this?
why are you telling me this?
I’m just saying that your assumption is wrong. But calm down, we’re having fun here, unless…
You are the ones downvoting this like it matters and getting your panties in a bunch about a group of annoying losers on hexbear. I don’t need an admin to protect me from them I have a block list.
getting your panties in a bunch
Are we now? lol I’m pretty calm and posting memes but you seem on edge.
I have a block list
Yeah, me too, and it’s about a foot long. But it’s almost as if people have other concerns when they call for defederation and they’re not just running to mommy. Idk, maybe something to consider.
Dude, I really don’t care what you think, why are you trying so hard
biggest cringe you can find online is people bragging about how many people they blocked.
ah nice to know you are a snowflake, why are you self owning about this?The biggest cringe you can find is you and your life, god it must be terrible to be you and I’m sorry you have your life.
this comment made me try to self reflect but the image of myself in the mirror made me die of cringe.
Well, its 20 to 5, I’m going to pack up my shit at work and see what you are all up to when I’m getting paid again
I’m impressed. You’re so insufferable that you’ve managed to piss off both Tankies and the people who hate Tankies.
Thank you for posting this though. This thread has managed to reaffirm my faith in Lemmy users. It’s a relief to see that people who bitch about mods and “hurt feefees” are still ridiculed.
It’s a shame, almost. After reading through this thread, I get the distinct impression there would’ve been much more spicy takes for you to die on. But, c’est la vie.
Who is dead? I’ll be back lol
I’m not a tankie
Cry more.
No one asked you about your thoughts or opinions, believe it or not you are so worthless two people bothered to press down on you.
Cry more.
Your responses are the worst and lowest effort. Try harder
Cry more.
Is there a way to see if someone has multiple accounts?
Probably not, they’re still working on basic admin tools and that one would be more advanced.
Yeah the mod tools are still pretty basic atm, but that would be a helpful one
Email, IP, and MAC tracking to at the very least form a map of related accounts could hypothetically work, but you gotta realize that it’s never gonna be a silver bullet, just even more effort that raises the minimum effort to beat the system anyways, and trolls take pride in how much glass they’ll crawl naked over just to annoy you personally once they’ve locked on.
Hahahahahahahahhahaa!!!
Most upvoted Lemmy post I’ve seen since joining and OP is getting blasted in the comments by people missing the point.
a lot of people here seem to have an us-centric kinda mentality
A lot of people start bleeding something besides human rights and the marketplace of ideas when you scratch them
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OP sounds like a jerk, but he’s not wrong. The calls for de-federation are about as ubiquitous as reports in online gaming.
De-federation should not be taken lightly. It undermines the whole point of Lemmy. It magnifies the shitty people on your server (you aren’t locked in there with them. They are locked in there with you). It promotes echo chambering and limits external viewpoints that help us form good opinions. It makes the server boring.
Don’t do it
Yeah except Echo Chamber paranoia is completely unfounded
It’s been proven that social media companies defy human social behavior and intentionally force you to see more content that will lead you to encounter “the opposing view”, not out of some inherent Grade A Grillin’ centrist urge to make everyone play nice, but because they know damn well that it drives up engagement from everyone being at each other’s throats in these forced encounters.
See also why you just cannot seem to escape tangentially seeing content related to users you blocked on Instagram or keep getting recommended users from in their social orbit that you “might know”.
The truth is that the ability to just ignore people who you don’t want to engage with is what keeps society peaceful most of the time, because going out of your way to force contact with people who disagree with you isn’t breaking down your personal barriers it’s laying the groundwork for a restraining order.
At first I disagreed about your characterization of OP based on just this post, but then I saw the comments on this thread.
Anyways, I also think defedding will cause a problem. It might even cause this platform as a whole to fail or to have one site rise and be the main site which is the opposite of what this is all about.
I was all ready to rush in and defend him for getting downvoted, but he’s asking for it.
I was joking and having a laugh at people who take the internet way too seriously, lighten up this place is for shitposting remember. I thought this whole thread was funny
Hexbear and to a lesser degree ML and grad evoke the fear of becoming the Nazi bar, but for tankies.
If many new users land on “all” and sees a bunch of crazy posts, and dogpiled Engel posting on every mention of the west, they are gonna just leave.
If everyone is cool being known as a home of ultra leftist, often drifting into true tankie autocrat worship, then so be it.
I’m aware who built Lemmy and so on, no need to recite the lore.
If people want to discuss defederation there’s nothing wrong with that.
It really, really depends on the instance’s users. So long as they’re tolerable, there’s rarely a reason to defederate. If you host mostly trolls, spam, illegal photos, or hateful content, tolerating it is unnecessary. I’m not here to interact exclusively with folks who seek only to regress my understanding, personally.
Relatedly, the most delightful folks exist on a broadly defederated instance, beehaw. Also relatedly, solarpunk hosts my second favorite userbase. You guys are fantastic.
Yeah, most instances should remain federated even if they’re somewhat distasteful. Just the extremes and harassers like Hexbear and lemmy.ml should be defederated.
Do you mean lemmygrad?
No, I mean lemmy.ml
It’s absolutely chock full of authoritarian propaganda and aggressive users. I abandoned an old account because they followed me around and downvoted everything I posted.
I love the idea of the Fediverse and want to see it thrive to the point where Facebook and the other corporate social media fail. I don’t think that’ll ever happen while aggressive propaganda instances like lemmy.ml are so prominent.
Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad about ran by the developers. Lemmygrad is the extreme version of ml.
I love the concept of the fediverse but there are many people who just want to troll people. It needs some diversity of ideas to be successful long term
I dislike lemmy.ml having an unwritten code of conduct upheld via admins but that really doesn’t extend outside their instance. Their users are largely fine so I’m fine with the instance. I do avoid their communities, though. Those are unpleasant due to the code of conduct.
What about threads?
IMO threads should be defederated on principle. Having a massive and evil corporation like Facebook here goes completely against the spirit of the protocol.
I just want to defederate myself from yiff instances and that one where the owner is using bots to pull threads from /r/overwatch to their own instance. I mean, you do you, but I just don’t want to see it on my feed.
Wasn’t this an option that was supposed to be added?
sorry for being out of the loop but what does defederating do? why is it so controversial?!
Defederating means that if your instance defederates another, that other server’s content will not be propagated into your instance. Therefore blocking all content from that other server into yours.
It means Hamid has to make another account
Me walking into the thread…
Just learned that’s Jason Mamoa
Lol I made the lemmitors really mad and they think I care about their downvotes and opinions on a shitposting sub, its the most fun I had all day at work while I get paid.
You WORK? FOR THE CORPORATE OVERLORDS!?! YOU FIEND!
As they say, if you felt the need to make multiple comments on it…
My app lets me know when I get bites so I just responded lol. The best part about this thread is I’m a villain on hexbear, I started a struggle session so tense it almost collapsed their site. Us vegans are dicks.
Ok buddy. Whatever you say.
