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    Recall the time when Windows came on a DVD, had no Microsoft account option on install, no ads in settings nor in the startup menu, no AI slop.

    It was still shit, but it feels shittier now, and harder to setup and configure in a way that’s bearable.

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      I don’t think this community is a stronghold of linux, as you can see in the comments. We need to start from somewhere.

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      @deepfuckingdumb @zdhzm2pgp

      A. Fuck Adobe
      B. I tend to direct people to Linux Mint. It’s so user friendly and similar to Windows its perfect for the Windows Refugees to start out with. It’s what I installed two months ago after having used Windows since Windows 95.

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        • Illustrator
        • InDesign
        • Photoshop
        • AutoCAD
        • Revit
        • Civil3D
        • ReCap Pro
        • Outlook
        • Bluebeam Revu
        • Large Format printer support drivers
        • AMD drivers
        • Steam VR

        I can run outlook and MS 365 in a browser so it’s really the other stuff I need functional to be able to switch.–

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        I use mint and only had one game so far with a problem. The game was 20 years old and couldn’t scale to an ultrawide monitor.

        So far most things just work. Except the locked streaming services that force anti-Linux. For that I just sail the high seas.

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      I’m halfway competent, spent 10 years in IT and even compiled my own kernel back in the early 2000s.

      My last 3 attempts at running Ubuntu turned into complete and utter failures, including having to totally reinstall the system over the top of itself because the system became so corrupted it wouldn’t even boot.

      And, I barely got steam to work on it. I wasted hundreds of hours and ended up with a barely functional computer that couldn’t print, didn’t support my computers wifi card, and 90% of my work programs aren’t available.

      Oh, and someone please support AMD video cards.

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      I wish I could just keep upvoting this.

      I’ll add, want to see your average person roll their eyes and say “nope”, just tell them they have to manually edit a bunch of config files to get going. How much about your car do you need to know to start your car and get somewhere?

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      But why even care if some random loser gets fucked by Microsoft? It’s like the religious idiots out there who don’t believe in global warming and hate trans people: you can’t deprogram stupid. It’s like waging a war against bears taking a shit in rivers.

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      Linux bros have been told this for literally decades. They’ll never get it. As long as I can’t use my air pods or even the built in fingerprint reader for my laptop, plug and play, I won’t even try making the switch.

      Linux is serverware with a barely working GUI and people are still talking about “just switch”.

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        Linux is everywhere and doing everything already. Windows only continues to exist because business majors are in charge and they are fucking dumb.

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        I agree with the first part of what you said, but I disagree with your last sentence.

        I have been using Linux on my desktop PCs and laptops since 2017 and it’s been working great for me, even playing games. Honestly, I probably play more games on Linux than I did back when I was on Windows lol

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      Yeah,there is one dude in the Linux group here that is just a complete jackass. Half answers your question, and most of it is just telling you a line of code with no other input and basically treating you like an ass hole for even asking. I don’t remember his name, I have him blocked, but absolutely hated seeing Linux posts with this fucking turd each time. Very demeaning and completely ruins the community. I feel like his personality is just trash and he’s always in a “roll your eyes / deep sigh” mood.

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        I thought the whole point of Linux was that there was one for everyone? A computer itself is an incredible potent tool, but most people just want to use Facebook and YouTube.

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    Took this crap off my computer and installed Fedora as my daily. If I need to run Windows, I’ll run it in a VM.

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      When I originally switched, I kept an ultra clean windows 2000 VM going for a solid decade. Any time I needed it, I could install stuff, do the work, and then blow away the crud that always builds up with Windows. I would suggest using the oldest version of Windows you can practically use, de-bloating it, and taking vm snapshots.

      You could even firewall it using another VM or the host if you wanted. Put windows in jail, erase its memory, and cut it off from the outside world so it behaves, lol.

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        I have yet to need Windows for anything and I switched when my WinXP machine decided booting was too difficult.

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    Even if Copilot was suspended, the idea was put into the heads of managers and executives. My work laptop current has three applications constantly locking files as they track everything I do and every file that gets touched and upload it all to the servers. Git now takes a ridiculous amount of time to check in and push files since it creates tons of small changes to the cached files that a the tracking applications block further changes or uploads until they can record the information. It takes about 30 seconds to a minute to check in a single small file. Something that used to take a second or two at most. Worst part is if I’m in a WebEx meeting, the fighting over caches in it and git and any other processes,often causes deadlocks that crash the machine. I’m constantly apologizing for being late for meetings because the laptop crashed and had to reboot. It’s gotten to the point that they finally gave me a much faster laptop rather than just excluding cache and git folders and such from the tracking because the people who want literally everything tracked don’t know what cache or git is, much less how much useless data they’re gathering or how the AI that analyzes it all is going yo get distracted by the garbage and not find any useful data anyway. Microsoft needs to get in the game to push the others back out.

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      No bro! I promise bro! It’s just because Michaelsoft isnt tracking and indexing that info. I promise this next micromanaging software won’t be as bad! The next one will be as good as teams bro! I promise!

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      I ran into this as my IDE is also constantly touching temporary files to maintain its state. It wasn’t copilot though, it was one drive. So I moved my work files into a local-only location, and then periodically rsync to the synced folder, excluding .git and other folders that have no business on a synced folder.

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        Why would you even have git repositories in OneDrive in the first place? Or are those local-only repos without an actual server to push to?

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    I’m not going to use this myself but I don’t know why everyone’s complaining about it so much. It requires opt-in, it does all the processing locally, and if someone nefarious gets to the point they can read this stuff then they’ll already be able to record your screen, log keystrokes, etc. I expect it won’t be straightforward to view the data as well, it’s not just gonna be a folder full of jpegs.

    I’m glad that people are actually trying to make interesting features still. OSs have been so boring years now, it’s good to see people actually trying to introduce standout features even if they are controversial. More of this I say.

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      Well, that someone nefarious who gets access can then only steal from that point on. Recall will allow him to find out you were having a wank last Tuesday at 7PM.

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      if someone nefarious gets to the point they can read this stuff then they’ll already be able to record your screen, log keystrokes, etc.

      The point is, that with Recall, they can do this back in time. A regular keylogger can only see what you do after he was installed. If you realize that your computer was compromised fast enough, then you can react. With Recall, everything you did in the last months is open to the attacker.

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      It requires opt-in,

      Because GDPR requires it to be so. Ask people overseas if they can turn that feature off. With the current government they have in the US, is this really something that the anybody should be comfortable having?

      Also, nothing is stopping malware from turning it on without your consent, because the technology will be backed in into the OS by default.

      and if someone nefarious gets to the point they can read this stuff then they’ll already be able to record your screen, log keystrokes, etc

      So we should just ignore that Microsoft just created a new attack vector that nobody asked for?

      I expect it won’t be straightforward to view the data as well, it’s not just gonna be a folder full of jpegs.

      Source?

      I’m glad that people are actually trying to make interesting features still.

      What’s interesting about this? Not only are you training AI models using your data without getting paid for it, I don’t understand what use case you can have by asking Microsoft what porn you were watching at 2 am of February 19th. For important stuff that needs remembering, you can just go back to your browser history. Its easier to search there than to remember the specific time you were doing something anyway.

      Literally, nobody wants this.

      OSs have been so boring years now, it’s good to see people actually trying to introduce standout features even if they are controversial. More of this I say.

      Okay so this is that mindset that seems to permeate the Tech industry through and through, these days. The idea that things that are working fine, need to be forcefully “improved” even when it’s not necessary.

      A pen can’t just be a pen anymore, it needs to connect to the cloud so that the ink levels can be properly measured and new ink sent to you on a subscription basis to make sure you never run out of ink.

      A juicer needs its own proprietary juice bags and it won’t work with different ones, and how does it know you’re not using the brand’s originals? Why, it must be connected to the internet of course, otherwise it won’t juice.

      Your car can’t just be a car anymore, it needs to have integrated mics and an internet connection so that the manufacturer can listen to all your calls and ear your sex sounds, and then sell that to advertisers who will know whether they should sell you a MagicWand or fisting lube, based on whether the moaning sounds they heard coming out of your car sound masculine or feminine.

      So on and so forth.

      You might think your take is unique, but it really isn’t. It aligns perfectly with everything that companies want nowadays, which is to get your data at all costs.

      For me, I want none of that shit. To the point that I go out of my way to make sure I only buy stuff that doesn’t connect to the internet.

      Which, BTW, this is the privacy community, I thought there was a common understanding of how abusing these features are, but I guess not.

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        I expect it won’t be straightforward to view the data as well, it’s not just gonna be a folder full of jpegs.

        Source?

        Tbf, I (and I’m a random third guy not the guy to which you’re replying, for clarity’s sake), also doubt it’ll be a folder of jpegs…but I think it’ll be fairly trivial to exploit whatever it is, and it’ll take way too much storage (storage cheap now, whatever, I know I’m old but I don’t use cloud and I’ve got other shit to spend money on than HDDs or SSDs, which I do also need as a pirate/data hoarder and don’t want to waste space on).

        I don’t understand what use case you can have by asking Microsoft what porn you were watching at 2 am of February 19th.

        Well you see I have my browser set to delete history on exit because of security so this would override that and keep the history…that I…deleted… Wait…

        Lmao idfk why people would possibly want this either.

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      From the comments it seems like you have to opt in to the screenshots. But I’m sure they do it at the bottom of a three thousand page EULA or something so most users will wind up opting in by default

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      GDPR regulation mandates that there is at least informed consent. So MS has to ask users if they want all their data to be uploaded. This includes of course a disable option. But knowing big tech companies, they’ll find a way to make users press that Okay button.

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      I switched to Linux Mint a few months ago on my main PC. I do not regret it. In fact, when I need to use one of my windows PCs for something, I am instantly reminded why I switched. If you are new to Linux, there will be some bumps here and there, but it can all be overcome with some help from LLMs. I hope more people make the switch. As a windows user since 3.11, I don’t want to go back to windows now.