The commander of the base wrote, “I do not presume to understand current politics, but what I do know is the concerns of the US administration discussed by Vice-President Vance on Friday are not reflective of Pituffik Space Base.” in an email and was thus dismissed. In dismissing her, the Pentagon stated this reason. “Actions [that] undermine the chain of command or to subvert President [Donald] Trump’s agenda will not be tolerated at the Department of Defense.”
Fragile Egos running the military great. Thousands may die but JD vance’s feelings shall be protected at any cost. The party of “fuck your feelings everyone”
Replacing base commanders is very indicative of a potential military coup
May you live in interesting times
Too fucking interesting if you ask me
That’s the jööööke.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times
I knööööw
x squeeze me rudeeee :)
Honestly, I feel like we’re one press conference away from someone calling artificial intelligence “Adobe Illustrator.
https://youtu.be/Z7XRX1UBooQ?list=PLlwzDYw6zp2D6DxLR8zGz1i_7764DYSVQ
Old BBC series, ‘I, Claudius.’ History of the first five Roman Emperors, with Brian Blessed as Augustus and Patrick Stewart as an ambitious general.
Relevant because of Caligula. He didn’t fall because he was a violent tyrant. He fell because he lost the support of the military.
Hopefully, Trump will miss that idea…
And he lost political support. He was attacking the senate.
In România the military turned on Nicolae Ceaușescu and his security forces.
Hey, thanks. I’ve gotta give that a watch.
It’s a really amazing show. Zero budget, but they make you think you’re watching a spectacle.
Great podcast where they go through the series, and interview some of the actors—Patrick Stewart and Patricia Quinn are definitely in there. https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/i-podius/
I had no idea who Patrica Quinn was. Turns out she was in two of my favorite things. Thanks for the information
JD Vance exudes weakness.
The patron saint of yes-men.
Who’s the snowflake now?
He is a real La-Z-Boy.
More like a human footrest
I heard he recently hit it off with a chaise lahegaounge
Edit: I’m so, so torn on whether to put those last two words into an imagegen
Save us and the planet, fuck gen ai
I mean, if you’re the Vice President, it’s kind of hard to put much pressure on the President. The Vice President has virtually no power or formal responsibilities other than what the President chooses to delegate to him. I mean, if he annoys the President, the President can very readily leave him with nothing other than a bit of prestige and a tie-breaking vote in the Senate.
Though the President can’t actually remove the Vice President, no matter how unhappy with him he is.
Alternatively, the President can’t actually remove the Vice President, no matter how unhappy with him he is.
He can be impeached, especially with a house that is under the president’s thumb.
It does create an odd situation in the senate about voting him out. I think dems would refuse a farce impeachment, even against the opposing party, but either way its a win for them.
It does create an odd situation in the senate about voting him out.
Sounds like there’s a bunch of unresolved constitutional law questions there too. There’s apparently a literalist reading of the Constitution that the Vice President should preside over his own impeachment trial. Normally, the Vice President presides over the Senate. The Constitution explicitly says says that the Chief Justice rather than the Vice President presides if the President is being tried; but has no special exception in the text for if the Vice President himself is being impeached.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States
In their capacity as president of the Senate, the vice president may preside over most impeachment trials of federal officers, although the Constitution does not specifically require it. However, whenever the president of the United States is on trial, the Constitution requires that the chief justice of the United States must preside. This stipulation was designed to avoid the possible conflict of interest in having the vice president preside over the trial for the removal of the one official standing between them and the presidency.[49] In contrast, the Constitution is silent about which federal official would preside were the vice president on trial by the Senate.[13][50] No vice president has ever been impeached, thus leaving it unclear whether an impeached vice president could, as president of the Senate, preside at their own impeachment trial.
Then the process involves a vote in the Senate. On two occasions in the past, the Senate has in fact tied:
https://theconversation.com/the-senate-has-actually-tied-in-an-impeachment-trial-twice-130939
The Senate has actually tied in an impeachment trial – twice
The Vice President…holds a tie-breaking vote in the Senate.
https://www.legbranch.org/can-the-vice-president-vote-in-a-presidential-impeachment-trial/
In other words, the Constitution designates the Vice President the President of the Senate and gives the Vice President the power to cast tie-breaking votes. Yet the Constitution only designates the Chief Justice the presiding officer in presidential impeachment trials. The Constitution does not designate the Chief Justice the President of the Senate, nor does it give the Chief Justice the power to cast tie-breaking votes. This suggests that the Vice President retains the power to cast tie-breaking votes in presidential impeachment trials.
For bonus points, Vance is a lawyer, and I suppose could represent himself as well.
Anti-Vance Senator: “And, Mr. President, was that the point where the Vice President committed the treasonous crime requiring his impeachment and removal from office?”
Trump: “Yes, and…”
Vance (acting as Vance’s attorney): “Objection!”
Vance (acting as presiding officer over Vance’s trial): “Sustained. The court orders the the statement to be stricken from the record and, further, observes that the witness is a whiny bitch.”
Vance (acting as holder of tie-breaking Senate vote): “Given that there seems to be a lack of evidence, I’m just going to come out right now and say that I don’t think that I can vote against the defendant.”
Vance (acting as defendant): “Woohoo! Score!”
EDIT: I don’t actually know whether the presiding officer when the Senate is acting as a court uses regular judicial procedure, so the above phrasing may not be correct, but it’s still a pretty zany hypothetical.
There’s supportive & then there is mewling sycophant.
Vance is the latter.
So what you’re saying is that he’s possibly the one person in the country that can tell the fascist fartknocker the truth and not be removed from office? Poor guy, I’m glad he’s doing the right thing instead.
Well, he might not be removed from office, but how much is holding the office actually worth if it has no political power?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nance_Garner
John Nance Garner III (November 22, 1868 – November 7, 1967), known among his contemporaries as “Cactus Jack”, was the 32nd vice president of the United States, serving from 1933 to 1941, under President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Like most vice presidents in this era, Garner had little to do and little influence on the president’s policies. He famously described the vice presidency as being “not worth a bucket of warm piss” (for many years, this quote was bowdlerized as “warm spit”).
Only thing good about these traitors is I’ll have something to celebrate in the future.
*Behold the Underminer! I am always beneath you, but nothing is beneath me! I hereby declare war on peace and happiness! Soon, all will tremble before me! *
View 1: you should follow chain of command as a unified command is necessary for military operations. Any personnel going against the direction is counted as rogue. (benefits military)
View 2: Public Relations of the country you are in requires the ability to deescalate situations and unwind tension, thereby requiring the communication of separation. (benefits local units and local community)
View 3: moral obligations of one’s self pushes you to do the right thing. (benefits self and possibly local unit)
In my opinion, I believe this was an action of view 2 and also happened to include view 3. But that’s just like… My opinion.
It’s literally against the UCMJ to take part in political action as a uniformed member of the military. To me it sounds like she was trying to “cya” and of course, this administration has such thin skin that they couldn’t have someone do that.
Fragging is gonna make a comeback in a time of “peace.”
Surely this won’t do anything to undermine an already plummeting morale.
Gotta have that rock bottom morale for the upcoming war with former allies…
Ohhhh nooo, anyway. Who is getting fired next? US firings became regular since trump came into the office.
-.-
Chain-of-command means orders come from your immediate superior doesn’t it? Adding “Or to Subvert President Trump’s agenda” pretty much nullifies that and by default makes our military on par with Russia’s. Good weapons do fuck and all when not used as intended.
Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
We don’t need Putin as an excuse for Trump’s (and his lap dogs’) behavior. This bunch would do this no matter what.
They wouldn’t be in the fucking white house without Putin.
Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
Yeah this. Very much.
Without Trump Putin would’ve been finished, but since Trumputler, Russia is still an actual danger to the world.
Russian disinfo is just so fking prevalent and idiots fall for it. And most people are idiots.
Trump would be like this regardless of Putin
Trump wouldn’t be the president without Putin.
That’s not what chain of command means. It simply establishes the hierarchy. Commands can be given by anyone who outranks you, or holds a billet that comes with higher authority. Trump and Vance at the top of that chain and can issue legal orders to literally anyone in the US military.
They can issue orders. Not all are legal. But since they replaced the JAGs, this might be closer to reality.
Hopefully they all remember their oaths of enlistment are to the Constitution first, THEN the president.
If they remembered, they would have rolled through the supreme court building the day they said we have kings again.
Military ain’t gonna do shit.
I’ve heard that the green crayons are good for abstract thought about legality.
The concept of chain of command also implies that higher rank alone does not entitle a higher-ranking service member to give commands to anyone of lower rank.
There grey areas in parallel chains but all chains end in Washington at the capital.
Not that the rule of law matters, but the VP is not in the military chain of command. There is no vice commander-in-chief. It goes pres then his Chiefs of Staff/Generals.
Of course they could just lean on the undermining trumps agenda of stripping Greenland of its resources, but that’s not why the base was there. Or I guess that is why it’s there now…idk.
No, second in command is the Secretary of Defense. But if the Vice President is acting on behalf or under direction of the president it could be seen as a billet. Walking around bases every unit has pictures of their chains of command, all of them include the VP and have for a long time.
Makes sense since VP could have to assume role of president instantly if president dies or is removed from office or resigns. But if they are only disabled, then VP becomes acting president. Made me wonder whether acting president or the disabled president will be commander-in-chief then.
I googled a bit and could’ve figured it out probably. But that’s a pretty niche question.
I know this will bring in the downvotes but I think LLMs aren’t horrible for use like this.
I asked it “if the president of the US was disabled then the vice president would become the acting president but not the actual president but would that mean that they would also be the acting Commander in Chief?”
And got a decent reply with a low chance of any hallucinations, because of the nature of the facts and it showing it’s reasoning.
Yes, if the Vice President becomes the Acting President due to the President’s disability, they also assume the powers and duties of the Commander in Chief. Here’s why:
- Presidential Succession and the 25th Amendment:
- The 25th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution addresses presidential succession and disability.
- Section 3 and 4 of the 25th amendment specifically outline the processes for the vice president to become acting president in cases of presidential disability.
- When the vice president becomes the acting president, they assume “the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.”
- Commander in Chief is a Presidential Duty:
- The role of Commander in Chief is a fundamental duty of the President of the United States, as outlined in the Constitution.
- Therefore, when the vice president becomes acting president, that person gains all of the powers and duties of the president, including the commander in chief role.
- Presidential Succession and the 25th Amendment:
Putin must be laughing his ass off at how effectively he’s destroying the US military without firing a single shot at it.
It’s one for the books to be sure. Also there are a huge portion of Americans cheering it on because they’re too stupid to know better.
Hero. Just trying to make everything work like it’s supposed to.
The Most Incompetent Administration In History can say what it wants to (and will) and the pithed chuds who make up the voting base will eat it all up, but anyone with any sense can see what’s going on.
Only if they watch/listen to more than Fox News and Newsmax and OAN. Here’s the fun thing… they don’t.
And what agenda might that be?
I imagine it’s “Expand the base whether Denmark agrees or not.”
Hi Greenland, here’s our new lease contract for our base, we want to expand our footprint to cover 836,000 sq mi.
While destabilizing the US economy
Loyalty to trump takes precedence to the truth.
Not relevant to the headline, but why the fuck would greenland want independence? Unless they are excited for digging up their entire country (which I would assume they don’t want as they like the landscape as it is afaik), they are completely reliant on danish funding.
If the snowflake starts to melt his mascara might run.
