Because it’s gridlocked you stupid German.
Seen this happen in European countries too, eventhough I despise american fascist pigs
There’s no place for anyone to move to. The congestion is such that you cannot get out of the way. The Van Wyck alone will slow an ambulance to 3-5mph because of traffic. You cannot get out of the way if there’s no place to go!
There’s congestion in German cities too. The point isn’t to drive away. During rettungsgasse, nobody goes anywhere. They just make way by stopping to the sides.
The problem in NY is that the cars are too big for the lanes to do that.
The problem in NY is that the cars are too big for the lanes to do that.
the only place available for people to do this is parking lanes and bus/bike lanes.
Yes, when there’s an ambulance behind you, you take a parking or bus or bike lane. Hop a fucking curb if you have to. It’s the one thing all the big ass SUVs should be good for in the city.
There are no lanes to move aside into. It has nothing to do with vehicle size or “driving away”. I really don’t know what to tell you, I’ve spent plenty of time in several German cities as well as US cities, the comparison isn’t there. There are no breakdown lanes or shoulders to move into in many places to make room for emergency vehicles. You’re welcome to argue all you want, but I drive in and around NYC regularly so I’m more than familiar.
There seems to be quite some space there compared to what I’ve seen emergency vehicles use here in the Netherlands. Recently there was one traveling across a pretty narrow bridge and a road that normally allocated 2 cars. The traffic was completely stuck and yet somehow the emergency vehicle got enough space to travel through. It outpaces me while I was racing down the bridge on a bike. That was more crowded and narrow than this. People went everywhere with their car to create a way for the emergency vehicle
Yeah but they do actually just stop. If there is a siren anywhere in the area, and everyone just stops driving their car. Even when there is somewhere to go, no one ever does.
Yeah that’s usually at an intersection where the only place to go to is into a red light with crossing traffic. A quick search of laws in the US shows no relief for motorists just because there’s a fire truck behind you trying to get through. If you run the red light to make way you could be ticketed (even though it would be real asshole to issue the ticket), and if someone hits you while you run the red or move into tbe intersection to make way it’s your fault. So there’s a lot of disincentive to move in those cases. Where I live people all move over if they can. Otherwise they stay put to be predictable and let the emergency vehicle use the breakdown lane or oncoming traffic. Worst thing is when people cluelessly start randomly trying to outsmart the ambulance and cause a clusterfuck of cars that nobody can get past. US drivers have fuckall for discipline.
I feel like this is mostly your fault for letting 12-year-olds drive, which seems to be the US norm.
Hey have you attended high school education? Great, here is a gun feel free to drive like a maniac who has no concept of lane discipline.
Americans make the Italians look considerate
As if the usa is the only country in the world with congested rush hour traffic. I’ve been in streets that were way more tightly packed + chaotic than this and people would still clear a path for vehicles with sirens. The emergency vehicle would only be able to go 20 to 30 kmh without a motorcycle escort, but that’s still significantly faster than what we’re seeing here.
What we’re seeing in this video, is that (some) vehicles that are directly in front of the ambulance move out of the way, but vehicles that are a tiny bit further ahead, don’t even try. If a vehicle that is directly in front of the ambulance can move out of the way, then a vehicle that is 30 places ahead, is also able to move out of the way, but they don’t even try … What should happen is that as soon as drivers hear a siren, they should start looking for where it’s coming from and then clear a path, and drivers should also especially not be driving into the path that others are clearing. Instead it seems like these drivers wait till the siren is right behind them and only then some start to move out of the way.
Looking for excuses in American exceptionalism reads like a case of “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”. This particular problem is something that can be easily improved upon by a public awareness campaign and some light fines for those that keep obstructing after the campaign has been running for some time. But what’s obviously even easier than that, is finding an excuse to continue doing nothing about the problem.
Well, I guess you’ve got it all figured out then. Just stupid Americans, right?
Yes. With video evidence.
Yeah, absolutely. Americans making excuses as to why solutions that work in other countries, would not work in the USA, are a scourge on your society. Your lives could be so much better if you lot stopped falling for that American exceptionalism propaganda and stopped inventing reasons to not do anything about known problems. And now that you’ve turned into a banana republic, I’m done being polite about it.
A retort that completely disregards the reasons why it doesn’t work in some major cities based on the sole example presented here while you make sweeping judgements conflated into an overall condemnation of everyone living here. Wow. Fuck right off. Really. Blocked.
Part of the problem is that the “rugged individualism” that America was founded on also equates to entitlement. The last generations that truly had it rough, where a community spirit was important to surviving are dying or gone, and no one has learned their lesson. Yet.
But they at least still have ambulance. Wouldnt want to be in the UK while having a heartattack
I’m only across the water in Ireland and I can tell you from experience that ambulances arrive quickly, are free and so is the treatment. The UK health system is measurably better than ours so I feel like this is plucked from somewhere that the sun doesn’t shine.
I feel like this is plucked from somewhere that the sun doesn’t shine.
To be fair, that describes the UK pretty well.
Are you saying the UK doesn’t have ambulances?
That’s a ridiculous and easily disprovable claim.
Also aren’t the nonexistent uk ambulances free?
As in not charged at a rate of thousands of dollars, they’d still be tax funded I assume.
I have family over there and they told me that health system went from one of the best pre brexit to quite bad today with huge waiting times for ambulance.
We may are a bit spoiled by the german health system.
And yes, i know that US have one of the most extensive and worst health systems for a so called first world country.
I might as well not have one here in the states, I’m not wealthy enough. My health plan is to walk it off until I die young
I’m not an American but I’ve lived in Washington for years. Every time an Ambulance is moving with its siren on, people move to the side of the road to let it pass. This guy is just inaccurate.
But surely this one example is enough to judge an entire country by!
He clipped the video as someone was moving out of the way
Manhattan has gridlock that prevents this. There’s no space to move into.
yup, I was on a street so narrow just a couple months ago that I couldn’t pull over far enough to let a firetruck go by. I had pulled over as far as I could. The truck got behind me and I couldn’t move over. SO I just said “fuck it” - and zoomed into the road as fast as was safe and turned off the road the first place I could find.
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America is a bit bigger than your NY road…
I mean hes got a point though. Its clear these people care more about their destination. Im from NY ive seen this plenty elsewhere, in many states. heck even seen it in canada. People just suck sometimes.
Is all the same tho. All of the US is full of carbrainrot.
This is beyond car brain. This is the increasing amount of people simply not giving a shit about the social contract over the years coupled with cops not doing their actual jobs in favor whatever it is they do (sitting in their cars fucking around in their phones and harassing minorities?)
But you see the lack of concern for the social contract in many other aspects of american life. Asking people to wear a paper mask during a pandemic was probably the most notable recent non car example. We all know how that went. In other cultures it’s a regular practice; you simply do it as a courtesy when you have recently had a cold. In A america during a pandemic 30-40% of the population revealed themselves to be utterly pathetic toddlers that can’t handle being asked to do something by a perceived authority figure or slightly inconvenienced.
Where I live, if a person on the crosswalk doesn’t move out the way of ab ambulance, it goes on the national news lol.
This isn’t cars this is people and their culture.
I am from the UK, a large city too, and we have lots of cars and incredibly busy roads where it’s standstill a lot, but cars will move out of the way for emergency vehicles, you’ll drive on the kerb if you have to.
I live 2 hours away from NYC and that’s also the case here
There is no curb on many of these streets to go onto, there are bollards to protect pedestrians preventing that.
Its a design problem combined with a congestion problem, that was the reason for the congestion relief toll.
That’s a good point and a spelling correction to boot 😂.
I did add an edit that we also have bicycles / motorcycles with paramedics if speed is of the essence and traffic is poor.
I also realise that Deansgate In Manchester City centre has now got those bollards too, but we have severely limited the cars that are allowed into the city centre and I must say it’s a lot more pleasant walking around and I say that as someone that used to drive through the city centre myself on the way home from work.
If you accept this one anecdote of an ambulance being stuck in NY, then you have to accept my anecdote that everyone in the PNW moves over to let ambulances through no problem.
It’s not all the same.
I accept that 100%. I’ve seen a decent bit the US and it’s such an enormous lump of land with so many different people and cultures that anyone trying to lump them together into some homogenous mass is off their rocker.
Sure you can travel an hour on a train in Europe and be in a totally different world culturally. The distance for those changes is bigger in the US but holy moly do they exist.
Oh look a cyclist bitching about shit
i lol’d
When your MPD switches to Richthofen
I come and save you, ja?
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You are being billed. Please do not resist.
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Der polizist mit seinen elfenohren …
So why not put paramedics on a e-bike, so they can actually arrive at the scene first. It’s not like the patient gets put into the ambulance immediately on arrival. Might as well have someone take care of the patient before the ambulance arrives. Just put a e-bike in the back of the ambulance or rack it on the front.
That sounds like a legit idea. Most important 1st aid gear can fit in a backpack. Inhaler. Defibrillator. Tracheostomy Tube. Etc including stuff to stop bleeding, including the knowledge of how to do it correctly.
Their solution is going to be ai controlled drones, you think they’re going to create solutions that require people? This problem is the first step to robo ambulances, we already have robo police drones where I live in America.
Shitty solution to a shitty problem in my opinion. Quite often patients are indeed put into the ambulance immediately. Ambulances also have tons of medical equipment, none of which you can fit on a bike, obviously. Then there’s the question of paramedic safety, especially given how many road accidents there are in the US. Plus, that would be a major cost for healthcare providers. Instead of 2 paramedics, you’d need 3 or 4, since they can’t go solo, again due to safety concerns. Overall this isn’t something we should be looking for alternative solutions to. You can’t keep making workarounds for systemic issues, like horrible road/traffic design or society being severely uneducated.
Our service uses bikes in highly urban areas, but I can’t speak to the pros or cons of it as I don’t have the brain power right now. It’s a large service, but not anywhere near a significant part of the service. Urban stuff, large gatherings stuff, terrain stuff with quads and even a boat.
They carry 100lbs of gear.
Love it!
Anyone got a mirror? It would be nice if catbox didn’t block vpn traffic, I’m not disabling my vpn for a meme
You’re fucked ja
Oopsie whoopsie.
I’ve seen roads so congested in NYC that they literally cannot get through. Saw a firetruck honk for a solid 5 minutes before getting to move anywhere.
