• kikutwo@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Half are aware, the other half is happy about how things are going. Apparently we have hundreds of millions of racist dumbfucks here.

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      There are plenty of racists who aren’t fascist. There are plenty or countries with racism problems that aren’t fascist. There are plenty of dumbfucks who aren’t fascist. There are plenty of illiterate countries that aren’t fascist. “Stupidity” (im being careful here - i dont think illiteracy = stupid) and racism predates fascism.

      Youve reached the limit of the liberal ideological framework and have resorted to explaining fascism as some sort of cultural pathology. This is what happens when your idealist politics prioritizes individual psychology and moralistic explanations over historical and economic analysis.

      It’s frustrating seeing liberals watch the fascist devolution in real-time, and just throw up their hands saying “well i guess americans are just stupid! QED!”. It conveniently absolves them for their complicity in facilitating fascism, and it spits in the face of victims of US policy, both foreign and abroad.

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        Well I voted against the Orange fascist. Should I go hold an anti Tesla sign at a dealership? What do you expect the response should be with the next presidential election four years away?

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          Honestly dog, this is exactly the right question. I get it. Shoutout to you for asking it. Truly.

          From the liberal perspective, this is exactly how it goes. “I voted against fascism, yet fascism still festers. What gives?”

          The liberal framework pushes the idea that electoralism is the be all end all form of political participation, but leftists refute this. Leftists say that you have a plethora of other tools at your disposal to express yourself politically: buy a gun, do mutual aid, join an organization, read theory, participate in local politics, etc…

          If your question is earnest, I’d encourage you to read some Lenin.

  • Match!!@pawb.social
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    yeah but the active constant surveillance keeps us from talking with each other about it in public/privately owned buildings/urban areas/in cars/anywhere a phone is present

    basically we have to go on camping trips if we want to actually discuss

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    Leftists, of course. Liberals will continue to be in denial for the foreseeable future. Conservatives just dgaf.

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        Liberals will claim that they are furious at what’s going on and then proceed to vote for another capitalist who perpetuates what’s going on, all while refusing to listen to Socialists. 🤷‍♀️

  • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    To some 20%-30% of the country ‘patriot’ means ‘whites only’. Honestly, if your so dedicated to being a patriotic American you can’t stand up to a government doing everything it can to destroy America, your just an idiot.

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    Aware and trying to let others in my circle that are unaware become aware.

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    Some of us are aware. We tend to also be the ones who know this only ends in some kind of revolution. No dictator has even chosen to give up power.

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          They paused elections, and Zelensky has some extraordinary wartime authority. He could try to consolidate power after the war, but he certainly won’t.

          They aren’t really a dictatorship, of course, I’m just trying to illustrate that dictators can and have chosen to give up power… And it’s unfortunate that more don’t.

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    Most of us are either completely deluded or utterly crushed by the collapse of our entire system of government. We know this is corrupt, and we want to organize to bring it to an end. But we have so many checks and balances that even if we all marched today with pitchforks and torches it wouldn’t effect any real change without burning down every police station, city hall, state house, and the federal buildings. All while hoping the military doesn’t show up and now us down with their weaponry. All the whole knowing that there has been a sharp rise in the popularity of police using violence and death as a deterrent.

    In short, we know, and we can’t see any way out of this mess. It wasn’t supposed to be possible, and looking back we all saw it coming. But we were just dismissed as alarmists every time we spoke up and we are surrounded by morons who think this is the best thing that has ever happened to this national.

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      Mass strikes. Call your union, other unions, whatever union. Organise a mass strike day. Repeat it every week.

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        Unions are rare here and trying to organize anything just gets you fired and jobless. Plus people are struggling just to eat, they can’t all strike. It’s really not that simple.

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        Unions? You think we have unions in the US? Most have been systematically destroyed by republicans since Reagan.

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        This is hilarious. Last time my union tried to do anything, Biden stepped in and stopped us. Then he took a victory lap about being a hero in to us while Congress forced a shitty contract down our throats.

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          If you went on strike republicans would have blamed Biden for not stopping it AND every dumb fuck American who never pays attention would believe it because they’d be directly affected and he was President.

          Not like it fucking mattered in the end.

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        Call your union

        90% of Americans have failed at this step. That’s not a joke or hyperbole, less than 10% of Americans have membership to a labor union.

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    I hope that people outside the US are aware of how quickly the rhetoric is shifting within the US. The right wing machine is rapidly spinning up a normalization of the ideas that: the US doesn’t need allies at all, the US has zero obligation to abide by international treaties, and the rest of the world is available for us to take. By ‘take’ I mean utter economic dominion and/or military conquest and/or territorial annexation.

    The speed at which things are deteriorating here is shocking. An imperial US is a terrifying prospect. This deranged, entitled joke of a country has both an effectively endless supply of armaments and a depraved indifference to the suffering of people abroad and here at home.

    The world has a metastasizing US problem.

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      Nothing is really changing. It’s the exact same system as under genocide joe. It’s a continuation of a loooong history of violence.

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    I’ve been saying this is inevitable since at least 2004. I’ve been called every name you can pretty much call someone.

    I hate being right it fucking sucks.

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    We understand that fully 1/3 of our population are absolutely bonkers. It’s like being in a boat at sea and 1/3 of the passengers are drilling holes in the bottom of the boat. What the rest of the world should know is that no matter how fucked it seems at the moment, it is going to get worse. We are on the precipice of a climate catastrophe. The AMOC is going to grind to a halt, Europe is going to go into a deep freeze, weather patterns globally are going to fall apart and become chaotic. The real problems are in the distance, so you should prepare yourselves.

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      The 1/3 drilling holes in the boat are doing so because the boat is taking on water and obviously they need to drill holes so it will drain.

      No amount of evidence, facts, logic, etc will convince them that their “common sense” is not only wrong, but actively making things worse.