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The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.
By Jeffrey Goldberg
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The Trump administration is so close to making the greatest post of all time on the War Thunder forums
War Thunder forums “Hold my beer.”
“Powerful start”?
Of course.
This - the abhorrent security alone - should be like, 24/7 on every channel invasion of Iraq TV, but no.
To be fair, it’s running at the top of BBC news here in the UK this morning which is kinda weird. They usually dunk stuff like this unless they too have some angle on it.
Well, it fits the “look at how foreigners are worse than Brits” angle, which seems to often dictate which stories the BBC runs and the spin they put on reporting of events abroad (that spin is very noticeable if you read the same story from a newspaper in another country).
Mind you, Americans are maybe the only ones generally excluded from that treatment, so this is special.
It’s like someone else said - I went back and dug a little on old.reddit (RIP r/America) and there’s for some reason its “not being shared” and actually, neutered?
Maybe I’m just a sucker for popcorn but it smells like it shit, it usually is 💩
Didn’t they try to charge Hilary Clinton for using an insecure private server?
Didn’t they tank her presidential bid on this? How she was unprofessional and unfit for office for this? And his Perfect Ukraine Call, his hacked emails, his every other lapse of OPSEC or security clearance issues… weren’t disqualifying? Or was it just what she had in her pants, same with Kamala.
Yeah I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. A private email server vs dming randos by accident.
This would matter if Republicans and their voters gave a shit about being hypocrites. That is not a new thing. Newt Gingrich went after Clinton for having an affair while he himself was having one for instance.
Genuinely. I had a discussion with somebody at work which boiled down to “Yeah but Trump stored the top secret documents in an unused bathroom while Hillary had emails in a private server which ended up being poorly secured so Hillary is actually the much worse security violation.”
Both sides are hypocrites. Remember Nancy Pelosi getting a haircut during Covid when regular people couldn’t? Or Gavin Newsom attending a birthday party during his own lockdown?
Let’s not both sides this shit. Yes, there are some corporate Democrats that are indeed hypocrites (I despise both Pelosi and Newsom) but Democrats have a mole hill while Republicans have a Denali sized problem with it.
The Biden administration has been happy aiding and abetting a genocide which caused hundreds of thousands of casualties, most of them innocent women and kids.
Not sure how that is an example of hypocrisy. Politician doing shitty thing does not automatically equate to hypocrisy. He also got a good amount of criticism for his actions and it possibly caused Harris to lose. Compare that with the complete lack of criticism with Trump from Republicans.
Are you suggesting aiding and abetting a genocide is a mole problem? I beg to differ.
It is an example of hypocrisy when the Biden administration praises themselves as leader of the free world and promotes a rules based order only to be accomplices of genocide.
Of course, this does not excuse what the Trump administration is doing.
Newt Gingrich went after Clinton for having an affair…
I don’t want to disagree with your main point, I just want to say that this is a misstatement of what happened with Clinton. He was being sued for sexual harassment by Paula Jones in civil court. He was impeached for lying under oath and obstruction during that investigation.
The hinky part of it is that Kenneth Starr was originally supposed to be investigating whether the Clintons had participated in fraudulent real estate dealings. When that investigation turned up nothing, he was directed to look into Clinton’s testimony about his relationship with Lewinsky, which had nothing to do with the original investigation. It was a massive fishing expedition. At one point they had the FBI working with Lewinsky’s friend to secretly record her talking about the relationship.
At one point they had the FBI working with Lewinsky’s friend to secretly record her talking about the relationship.
Depending on how much you believe David Brock - they were going to keep going until they found something. They were also happy to make up a lot of shit too - the stuff about state troopers bringing in women for Bill to sleep with, Vince Foster and the other “murders.” The entire investigation was not about justice.
Which of course doesn’t make Bill Clinton not a lecherous shitbag and sex pest. The way the world treated and treats Lewinsky is fucked up. He probably did harass Jones, if not all of the other weird mentally ill women Alex Jones types like to trot out.
Gingrich was worse. His wife at the time had cancer and he served her divorce papers while in the hospital and then left her and their child pennyless.
Christian love
Instead of mocking things as Christian that clearly aren’t (which includes pretty much everything I know about religion in the USA) we should remind those people what their values, their religion stand for. That’s far more likely to get them to change for the better.
I get what yours saying, but being hateful is what evangelical Christianity gas evolved to become. These are their values
It feels weird to say who was worse. Gingrich was worse to his wife for certain. Absolute monster of a husband and father. Clinton engaged in workplace sexual harassment as the president of the united states, and for some reason it took like 20 years for people to realize that lewinsky was his primary victim after spending years and years shaming her more than him.
Tbh I’d rather be sexually harassed in the workplace than get to the end of my life and realize that the person I had children with and wanted to grow old with didn’t give a flying fuck about me as a human being.
Not that either is good, but most of us understand that our bosses view as as resources. And if you’re raised female, you’re definitely aware of that dynamic.
Fascists are surprisingly bad at war.
They’re bad at lots of things. Stupidity is a highly transferable skill.
#1 thing they are bad at: running a government. Kinda hard to when you don’t actually believe in it. 🤷♀️
Fascism is literally all about doing what’s best for the IN Crowd, in other words Cronyism, the very opposite of Merit.
If your selection criteria for people supposed to manage anything is who is mates with whom, what’s their skin color, what’s their gender and what’s their sexual orientation, rather than, you know, managerial qualities, it’s only natural that they suck at managing things.
I think the screenshot removed your link?
Oh I think it did as well. Sorry about that!
I think I fixed it
Well, at least it encrypted, unlike trumps bathroom.
It’s okay, they weren’t emails…
There should be as much outrage over this as they did with Clinton but 1) the Republicans are hypocrites, 2) the Democrats are weak.
TIL that the US military texts around sensitive plans, reporter aside, SMS is not a secure protocol to do this.
Article plainly states it was signal, not that that is much better
No matter what the protocol is, the chat is completely vulnerable once a single chat member’s phone gets infiltrated. There’s not a set of higher value targets in the world than the US president and his cabinet for actors like China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and even Israel.
There is a reason national defense related discussion is meant to happen exclusively on a locked-down High-Side network, on exclusively locked-down High-Side equipment that exists exclusively in locked-down High-Side locations.
No shit. I was just correcting them on the confidently incorrect assumption they made without even skimming the article.
I did read the article but saw several mentions of texting, I was under the impression Signal was just another texting app.
Who hasn’t gotten a little drunk courage once in a while and texted someone they want to roll around in the sack with, eh boys, eh?!
Next week: the trump administration accidentally texted its war plans on my Minecraft server.
Even my work has better OPSEC on a random stupid meeting with nothing interesting. They review every attendee to make sure no one unexpected is in the chat.
It geniuely concerns me that this type of stuff doesn’t warrant a meeting or encrypted messaging.
Encryption doesn’t uninvite randos
Come on bud this ain’t reddit, if you’re gonna weigh in read the article lol
Well, see, the thing is that it 100% absolutely positively no-questions-about-it does warrant a meeting and government approved, Internet-disconnected communications methods.
The fact that Trump’s entire fucking cabinet apparently disagrees is what concerns me.
The messaging was encrypted, they where using Signal. The dumb fuck just “accidentally” added the reporter to the group chat 😆
I wonder if it was deliberate. Trump will surround himself with people like him, so they must constantly be knifing each other in the back
Oooh you’re right I never thought about it like they’re similar to the circle Stalin had.
Saying singal is secure is actually a wild take. JS felt like this was a in person type of job.
Why do you say it isn’t secure? I’m not saying it should be used for what they where doing. I was just saying, it is encrypted
It was hacked in 2022 and 1900 accounts and their messages were leaked.
If your serious about security you need to use anon messages.
Signal ok for local drug dealers but for international war games I’d like something better then a app on the app store.
Yeah that’s fair lol or like maybe plan your bombings in person 😅
That’s not quite true. A 3rd part verification provider was compromised not signal itself
Locks are just as effective as the people wielding the keys.
That’s so true. And to be clear I wasn’t trying to suggest that they should have been doing that. Like the messaging and the bombing. Both bad
