My printer is an older Brother mono laser jet.

It has some good functions like duplex and and scanning, but only single page scanning.

I’ve just changed the toner for the first time after 700 pages, and it doesn’t like my remanufactured cartridge. Thanks Brother.

After some restarting and screaming at my printer it started to print, but complains the toner needs replacing every time.

I’ve ordered another toner, just in case, but who makes good quality, ADF, colour laser jet printers that don’t cost an absolute fortune to replace?

One that’s happy with a refilled toner.

  • cubism_pitta@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The printer I am liking right now isn’t laser but comes out to be about the same cost to print as laser.

    It’s the Epson EcoTank. The print quality is pretty good for things where a laser printer is the wrong tool and the refills are relatively reasonable… and Shaq promotes it!

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      4 months ago

      Eco Tank is a good choice if you print with regularity or need a photo printer, but not if you print maybe once or twice a year. It’s still an inkjet, and the head will still clog if sat unused for a couple months, requiring a lengthy head cleaning cycle and possible replacement of the maintenance box. If you almost never print, but need your printer to just work without fuss that one random day you need to print, it’s gotta be a laser printer.

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        4 months ago

        Yeah it is awful for intermittent printing; you will not get as many prints as you expect but it WILL still print (after you run a couple of maintenance cycles to flush out the dry ink)

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      Definitely agree. Most printers are sold at a loss with the plan to milk the buyer long term through ink and other services. EcoTank printers are more expensive, but Epson makes their money at the time of purchase. The ink is extremely cheap, and there’s no way for them to tell if you use 3rd party ink at all. We’ve been printing out textbooks with ours, which would be financially disastrous with a traditional inkjet printer.

      Overall I’ve bought two, one for home and one for the office at work. The cheaper ink has paid for the printers several times over now.

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        4 months ago

        I was curious about the ecotank machines for the cheap ink, I will do more research.

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      4 months ago

      My wife prints a lot (and needs color, cardstock support), and this is what we went with. Had it about a year now, and it’s been fairly reliable. A couple streaks and minor issues, but nothing major. Get a good amount of prints per ink refill.

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    4 months ago

    One that’s happy with a refilled toner.

    Here’s the challenge. Is it possible to create a refilled/remanufactured toner cartridge as good as an original? Absolutely! Is the one you’re buying meet that standard? There’s no way to tell.

    You could have bought a garbage refilled toner where the company did less than the minimum needed for it to function. There’s no standards body for these. The best you can do is buy from a company known to do good reman work. If you work at a company that still has a fleet of printers, and your IT team still maintains them, ask what brand they use.

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    4 months ago

    if you’ve not ever updated the firmware of the printer, it might just be a faulty third-party cartridge. try another.

    if the one you’re having difficulty with was a recent purchase, ask the vendor for a swap. the good ones will happily send another.

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      I did update the firmware because it wouldn’t connect to my WiFi.

      When I checked, the toner I swapped in was from 2019, and the chip had a battery soldered on, so maybe the battery was dead?

      But I am also expecting a level of enshitification as their firmware was bricking machines using third party ink.

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    4 months ago

    Brother, by far.

    You might need to get genuine toner or something, but in every other way it can’t be beat.

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        That was unconfirmed but Louis Rossmann blew it up into a big thing. Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy, he’ll be the first one to admit he’s not perfect, but that was not his finest work and nothing about it was convincing. Brother isn’t perfect either, but as far as printer manufacturers go, they’re pretty okay.

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        “Recently” being one Reddit post three years ago about needing to manually index the color nozzles on their third-party ink.

        A YouTuber hyped it up as Brother turning to the dark side so that he could profit off clicks.

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          it was Louis Rossman and recently was within the past month; That said its currently being discussed

          I don’t really like Louis Rossman much but most of his critiques of companies not treating consumers correctly are typically correct

          Personally speaking though removing old firmware from site and adding a genuine cartridge check are the first steps you would take to begin limiting users.

          EcoTank I like because Epson can literally NOT confirm if the ink is genuine or not (if you REALLY were determined you could even get Magenta into the Cyan tank and it would still squirt ink out… although incorrectly of course)

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            I used to like Rossman, but over the years it just kinda seems like he’s fallen into a negativity spiral. What used to be educational just sounds spiteful a lot of the time now.

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        I’ve been running TN-660 cartridges from LD Toner for literally a decade, they’re like $15 a cartridge and generally do a great job. Of the many I’ve ordered, maybe 3 were bad but since brother charges $60+ for a single I still come out ahead.

        Dunno what brand you went with, but maybe give them a shot. None of my brother lasers have outright rejected third party carts.

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        Only other printer I would try is Samsung, had one a long time ago and it just worked.

        But love my brother printers, they work on BSD automatically, never seen that before.

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          4 months ago

          samsung’s printer business was acquiredextinguished by the devilhp in 2017

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    4 months ago

    I’ve had canon, HP, and brother inkjets - dislike them all (though hate HP as a company worse than the others.). Finally I bought a Xerox color laser printer (and scanner, etc) and really like it. Part of the enshittification is the world of inkjet ink, but part is also the companies.