• fl42v@lemmy.ml
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    A recent report from Stanford University in the US, published in the journal Nature Communications, found that recycling lithium-ion batteries is far more environmentally friendly than mining for new materials.

    Huh, who knew

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      There’s probably a lot that could be recovered from my urine. Fun fact when phosphorus was first discovered they had to boil off gallons of urine to get a useful amount, so they collected barrels of urine from mining camps.

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      You don’t just suck on your old batteries?
      Fucking spoiled rich kids and their pharmacy grade lithium…

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        Wait until they cut Medicaid. People are going to be gnawing on rechargeable AA batteries like it’s chewing tobacco. Maybe C or even D batteries if they need more OnlyFans subscriptions to make rent. It’s going to be like when N.O.R.E. found out Doja Cat was in racial chat rooms showing feet. People are going to find out their crazy but hot girlfriend ate whole car batteries for 8chan.

        This is the America Ted Cruz wants. Vote for me and I will make sure Doja Cat gets the purest lithium.

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            There was a time when I didn’t know what those words meant either and I strongly encourage blissful ignorance over doing research only to come away more ignorant. Every time you don’t know what something on the Internet means, read a scientific paper or another few pages of Tolstoy or visit a museum. You’ll be a happier, healthier person.

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          Do you have lithium 9 volt blocks or do you only get your zinc and manganese from it?

          But it’s probably important to take care of all your nutritional needs and different 9 volt batteries could provide you with quite some of that.

          Clever thinking!

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      When refining a process, it becomes exponentially more difficult and expensive the closer you get to 100% efficiency. 0-95% costs less than 95-99%, which costs less than 99%-99.99%

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        Unless you find/invent a new procedure that’s way more efficient instead of doing more cycles of known procedures.

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          You don’t need to shoot them with a gun. Bow and arrows allows for more skill expression and are renewable alternatives. Not to mention that it is a great workout routine.

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            You can also reuse the arrows.

            Some need to discarded and some will be used for the trophy case, but overall a very green and humane hobby.

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      Because externalities of lithium extraction like using aquifers for evaporation ponds and the pollution from the leftover brine aren’t included in the cost of new lithium production, thus making less environmentally impactful methods of recovery too expensive to justify.

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          Note that this is not a catch with this recycling process (necessarily, anyway; the article doesn’t get into too many specifics) but rather an end-run to make lithium mining and refining appear less awful than it actually is.

          Mining new lithium may be “cheaper” in raw dollars and cents provided only you don’t include the environmental impact or the costs of dealing with the same as a line item on the invoice.

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            lithium mining and refining appear less awful than it actually is.

            So do I undertand you correctly it’s just an “eventuality option simulation” to lower the environmental footprint?

            Like for example the listed WLTP* Kw/h / fuel consumption of cars in perfect (lab)conditions which never exist?

            *Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure