Came across a list of pseudosciences and was fun seeing where im woo woo.

Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

Ley Lines

Accupressure/puncture

Ayurveda

Body Memory

Faith healing

Anyway, list too long to read. I guess Im quite the nonscientific woowoomancer. How about you? What pseudoscience do you believe? Also I believe nearly every stone i find was an ancient indian stone. Also manifesting and or prayer to manipulate via subconscious aligning the future. oh and the ability to subconsciously deeply understand animals, know the future, etc

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    Modern geocentrism

    kinda. It’s more that “center” of the universe can be picked completely arbitrarily. I can say I’m the center of the universe, and when I spin on my chair, the universe revolves around me. You can define the frame of reference however you wish to. The change of perspective does not change how orbits work.

    Lunar effect – the belief that the full Moon influences human and animal behavior.

    by that short definition sure, but probably not how they mean. If you’re active at night, the amount of ambient light is surely going to impact your behavior. Not so much in areas with artificial lighting.

    Memetics.

    Insofar as there are self-replicating ideas, and the ones more likely to self-replicate become more prevalent…sure. Not the whole story either, as ideas can also be pushed by people that don’t believe those ideas.

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      Memetics is not really pseudoscience. It was science, there there were compelling evidence and arguemtns that ideas have no agency on their own, contrary to genes, and the whole field died for good.

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          While genetic agency is often appropriated by reactionary politics, it’s a quite established scientific perspective.

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            I’m guessing “agency” in this case is being used in a way that’s very specific to that area of research and not exactly how people use it in normal conversation?

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              It’s obviously an open topic of debate in philosophy, but genes have agency for some definition of agency.

              In a cybernetic sense, they have agency in the sense that the information within them transforms the world way more than the world affects their information. They are more players than chessboard.

              For people like Dennet, which I’m not necessarily a fan of, you can think of agency (and therefore freedom) as the ability of any unit of matter to prevent its dissolution in the face of threats. Life can be framed as a strategy of DNA to reproduce itself in the face of entropy. That is agency.

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            Does a grain of sand have agency? Does it want to be caught by a specific size of classification sieve?

            Because that’s exactly the level of agency that drives natural selection.

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              Agency is not will though. For sure genes have no will and neither does sand

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    Mind-body. That you can think yourself sick, or well. Not like magic, but a lot of the time. Like how people won’t get sick until vacation a lot of the time, they say “don’t have time to get sick” so then on the day off, the mind tells the body “ok now you have time!”. All of my kids were born on a day off or weekend, same thing in a way. And once I read a book where the protagonist’ hands were burned, very vividly described, and got blisters on my fingertips.

    I just really believe a lot of physical illness, and health, comes from thinking.

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    I try to follow truth whenever it leads, I guess the closest was when I was younger and wanted dragons to be real, but I didn’t really believe it.

    Acupuncture isn’t a pseudoscience, anyway, it’s science. It has been actually proved to work.

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    Goodness, that’s a lot to read.

    I don’t know if I believe any of them with actual faith instead of just chalking coincidental things up to some beliefs like that. The Lunar phase one comes to mind as something I’ll often reference, but I don’t actually believe in lunacy.

    However, there’s one about grounding methods in the health section. I definitely don’t believe there’s anything about elecron alignment or whatever bull that all is. But being on the ground helps me a lot with anxiety and relaxation in general. To the point where I prefer sitting in front of my couch vs on it, lol. So maybe I believe in that one, but not in any pseudoscience way??

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      I work in 911 dispatch, and I don’t have hard stats to back it up, I’m not even really sure how it could be objectively measured, and I’m sure I have a whole lot of bias and such, but I’m pretty sure everyone I work with agrees that we just get weirder calls on full moons.

      Not necessarily busier, or more severe, there’s just a certain something that’s hard to explain about a lot of our callers that seems to get a little strange on a full moon.

      It’s not something we’re actively keeping track of, it’s not like we have a reminder set on our phones for the full moon, but when we have one of those nights where everything just seems to be a little off and we check the moon phase, it seems like it’s full or nearly full more often than not.

      Although personally I think we see a bigger difference for a couple days after the clocks change for daylight savings time. My pet theory on that is it throws people’s medication schedules off by an hour and it takes them a few days to readjust. Plus throwing off sleep schedules, and dementia patients who sundown may be up and acting up at a time they would otherwise be asleep.

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    The Moon landing was staged, but Stanley Kubrick insisted to shoot on location…

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    Cryptozoology. There are definitely creatures unknown to science. Dozens of new ones are discovered every day. Loch Ness monster - no. Unknown ape - possibly.

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      Speaking of unknown animals. Unicorns could pretty much be real. Just imagine: We have horses, we have horned animals (even one-horned animals), it is not impossible that a horse-like animal with a horn exists.

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      I just know we’ll find that damned Insulindian Phasmid soon

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      There are a fair few accounts in Tasmania about thylacines still existing. The lands are so rugged and harsh that there’s not really any solid way to get in there and search. But I’ll believe it, absolutely.

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        That is not really cryptozoology, a known real creature that we think is extinct, but if it’s turns out to not be… Nothing weird here.

        A lot different to claiming there is a loch Ness monster.

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          Many people claim the Loch Ness monster is an animal thought to be extinct though. The thylacine is generally held to be a cryptid in my experience.

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      Although anyone who works in an ER will tell you the full moon is the busiest night; the occurrence rate of every issue but murder goes up.

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        My mother is a career nurse and swears by this and I’m inclined to believe her. I’d love to see if numbers actually back it up or whether it’s sort of confirmation bias.

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          Not murder, but I’ll be damned if as a teacher and parent kids aren’t wackier during the full moon.

          Also, sugar doesn’t cause hyperactivity. Who ever doesn’t think that can teach for me on Halloween

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    Pretty sure lunar effect is a real, scientifically confirmed thing, just known by a different name. Perhaps not the full moon specifically, but we do oscillate according to the moon phase. It’s called circalunar cycles. The name might sound familiar to circadian cycles because they both derive from the same word structure, ie circa-dia (“around a day”) and circa-lunar (“around a month”)

    At minimum, I’m quite surprised that Wikipedia lists this as a pseudoscience, because my impression has generally been that circadian researchers acknowledge circalunar cycles as a given

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      A lot of these are adjacent to real observable phenomenon but a nutty belief system has been overlaid and then additional claims are made on the basis of that nutty belief system which are not observable.

      For example, Feng Shui in practice is usually pretty sensible “where should I put the sofa” kind of stuff, but if you claim that it’s about the flow of qi through your house and suggest that based on that not only should the sofa go over there, but you need to put a topiary vase on the table next to it, that might be a nice aesthetic touch but there’s no evidence of qi.

      Additionally there’s plenty of Traditional Chinese Medicine that became actual medicine because it has observable properties. For example turmeric is a mild anti-inflammatory.

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    I do suspect Qi is a useful abstract concept for focusing and activating parts of our physiology. But while it feels like a single thing (“energy”), it is more a very complex bunch of processes the same way our consciousness feels like a single thing, but is actually a very complex bunch of processes.

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      Say that to my back/arm pain I had for months after a Ski accident… After 4 session and one good knack I literally felt how everything got back in place.

      I felt so exhausted and somehow strange like a little bit drunk… But after a few weeks the pain went away ! Like magic !

      So yeah, science can’t prove everything but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t work or has some positive benefits ! Science has also been wrong numerous times or has been controlled by conflict of interests… What ever, choose your poison !

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    Like you, I ain’t reading the list.

    However, I’m not dismissive of stuff that’s woowoo, but the stuff you listed has pretty much been shown to be nothing better than placebo effects, with the partial exception of the cycles of some things in nature matching the moon. But it isn’t about the phase, per se (at least, the last serious publication I saw on it indicated it wasn’t).

    Thing is, woowoo placebo effect isn’t a fake thing. Hence me not being dismissive. If something A: helps get someone through shit, B: doesn’t hurt anyone, and C: isn’t being used by someone as a tool to manipulate, it ain’t my business to correct anyone.

    Some shit, like acupressure has benefits beyond the placebo, even though it isn’t for the claimed reasons. When stuff like that works, it’s very often the touch itself combined with the idea it will help that makes it effective enough to be worth keeping around.

    But, with that kind of thing, that’s only okay if it’s conjunction with evidence based beat practices. That’s when woowoo really shines. To help someone decrease stress, handle the horrible, and get through another day. Because it really does help in that regard.

    See, it’s known that religion serves that purpose. It’s a psychological coping tool in one of its aspects. It doesn’t matter if the same effect happens because of faith in a deity or not. It’s that we can, to a limited degree, improve our selves by how our minds are functioning. So, if someone gets through their divorce, or being sick, or grieving by burning incense and playing with pretty rocks, IDGAF, I’ll lie to their face and tell them that it’s great, as long as they’re also working on whatever it is more holistically with something evidence based.

    Even then, I’d just try to convince them to add to, not abandon.

    That being said, I wish some of that shit worked. It would be so fucking nice.

    • 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆@lemmy.world
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      It is impossible to communicate pain effectively. Pseudoscience acceptance causes harm because it greys the line when situations are high risk and complicated. I am quite literally collateral damage with my entire life thrown away in this grey area. Not offended at you, just saying it is not harmless.

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    The USB law.

    When you try to plug in a USB-A connector, there’s a 70% probability it won’t go in. Mathematically it should be 50%, but I don’t believe that.

    You switch it around, and there’s a 30% probability it won’t go in. This is not something they taught at school.

    You switch it around the third time, and there’s a 5% chance it still won’t go in. Your mind begins to melt down, you switch and insert repeatedly until it finally works sooner or later.

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        The orientation of the connector occupies both states at the same time. If you look at it, the superposition collapses into either of the two.

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      That’s true only if you don’t want to or cannot look at the connector. The side with the seam goes to the part of the hole with the plastic bit.

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        Also, the overwhelming majority of USB plugs have the logo on the side away from the plastic bit, and sockets have their plastic bits towards the top of the device. You want the plastic bits on opposite sides (as physical objects don’t like to overlap), so that means that if you can feel the logo with your thumb, that side goes up when you plug it in, and you don’t even have to look.

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          Amazing! I need to check how many of my cables actually follow this rule.

          Also, the socket side tends to be aligned in a particular way, but it won’t work with all manufacturers. I recall seeing some laptops that had their USB-A sockets upside down. Oh, and desktops too! Those sockets are usually vertical, and facing a wall, so it’s anyone’s guess which way is right.

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            Towards the back of the machine normally counts as up for upwards-facing sockets, unless it’s a case with feet on the side, in which case it’ll be away from those feet so the sockets would be the right way up if it were sideways and on the alternative feet.

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      It’s the XCOM principle lol.

      A shot with a 99% chance to hit will miss far more often than you think.

      A shot with a 1% chance to hit will miss pretty much exactly as much as you think.

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    my mother was a new-ager and my father was an engineer. the amount of woo i got exposed to on a regular basis, and the amount of explanations on how it’s bullshit, has pretty much inoculated me against it.

    it’s all about theory of work; questioning what would cause the ascribed effect.

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    Acupuncture, to a certain extent. There’s obviously something to it (a friend of mine went there because of various issues, and it helped), but the actual science isn’t nailed down yet.

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      My insurance pays for it which I find shocking. I do find it helpful whether it’s placebo or something else, and since it’s covered I do it.