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      Exactly, we have UPS, FedEx, DHL and bunch of others.

      Leave USPS the fuck alone.

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        They’re all shit too. Fat lot of good privatization would do. USPS was Cool and Good until DeJoy was dropped in to throw wrenches into the cogs.

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          UPS is actually fairly reliable. FedEx is hit and miss depending on the driver coverage area you’re in, DHL and others just don’t even exist.

          USPS has always been great, but primarily for handling “last mile” where a lot of customers need reliable delivery of low monetary value packages like letters that UPS isn’t set to handle, but carry some of the most important lifelines of information to rural and poor Americans.

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            UPS has always been hit or miss at best in my experience, but of the three, I’ll concede that it’s the least garbage. The other two have delivered packages to the wrong house—not as in like, “next door” wrong house, but as in “some house miles away” wrong house—or they sometimes just flat out don’t deliver a package and return it to the sender. If they do deliver a package, it’s rarely on time.

            As for USPS, nowadays, my wife has tracked packages to see that they are brought to our local mail sorting facility, but then for some bizarre, inexplicable reason, they’re sent off elsewhere, even to another state, before being delivered here days later than the estimated delivery date. I have no idea what the hell is happening, but it’s insane and insanely stupid. And I know who is to blame, at least with this service anyway.

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              DeJoy got rid of around 1/3 of the mail sorting machines, so now they have to fake it or something. They cannot keep up with the volume of mail, is my guess.

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      I’d bet he wants to take over Amtrak so he can replace it with that stupid Las Vegas car tunnel.

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        Or replace it with nothing, because “railways and mass transit are obsolete” (translation: “they’re hurting my car sales”).

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      Everything that has been privatized, has ended up costing us more for shittier service. This will not be different.

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      This but unironically.

      Can you imagine a presidential candidate running on the platform of seizing the assets of the billionaire class? They would transcend political parties, they would unify the nation and people would finally gain something from our politics.

      And they would probably be found with thirty bullets to the back of the head and it would be ruled a suicide.

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    What a surprise given the fuckery he pulled with Hyperloop and California high speed rail

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    I remember seeing an interview with Margaret Thatcher where she said that rail could never be successfully privatized. Just as a reminder of how extreme Musk’s ideas are.

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      Thatcher’s successor, John Major, oversaw the privatisation of British railways between 1994 and 1997.

      It only took 30 years for them all to completely collapse in 2024.

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        British Rail Service is so bloody expensive as well. Seems like you guys have these, essentially, per-track monopolies.

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      They more or less did that here in the Netherlands. Once the government let go, things slowly started getting worse and we’re now at the point where I’d say things are expensive, occasionally sporty and suboptimal…

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    The usps is a government SERVICE. These parasites look at that and say “but nobody profits from that” and somehow they just can’t let that happen.

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      I still can’t get over the idea of for profit prisons. incentivized incarceration is beyond stupid.

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      Except the taxpayers benefit from it, who are the ones paying for it anyway!

      What Chancellor Musk means is that no oligarch is getting rich from it, so he is unable to understand its purpose.

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      The thing is they did generate a profit until they were fucked with by Republicans to make them look unprofitable.

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        There isn’t a functioning part of our government that the regressives wont destroy for private profit.

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    Vital US services shouldn’t be privatized! You remember when firefighting companies extorted people to put out fires? If you didn’t have their symbol out front or weren’t current on your payments, they would just watch your home burn down…

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    Ffs. Not everything fits cleanly into a for-profit model. Health care, postal service, and public transportation are great examples.

    This is how we know that billionaires are grifters far more than they are economists.

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    tl;Dr fuck off and eat shit, idiot

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but Amtrak is private, though. It’s publicly subsidized, but it’s not a government agency AFAIK. Same for the post office. Part of the problem with Amtrak, though, is that the state of passenger rail in the US is still down in the septic tank, largely due to almost 100 years of government subsidized car-centric development and heavily subsidized air transit development. You’d have a very hard time attracting private investors interested in a conventional passenger rail mass transit scheme, I think.

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      It’s quasi-public, which is weird. It is subsidized, but just barely (they have like 95% farebox recovery), so i don’t think it’s even responsible to call it subsidized like road and air travel.

      I bet if there was enforcement of train priority laws, they could even be a revenue generator. Philosophically, I dont think they should be, though.

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        Edit: lmao, at those rates, Amtrak is less publicly subsidized than a lot of fortune 500s

        I’d be cool with Amtrak turning profit as long as the revenue was always re-invested into better train sets, better routes, more frequent service, cheaper tickets, employee pay and benefits, etc etc, and never just routed to rich fucking assholes who already have more than they know what to do with.

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          They really can’t. They inherited hundred year old falling apart infrastructure that is one of the things keeping them from providing good service. There’s no way to make enough profit to rebuild all that infrastructure enough to become profitable on most routes in the first place. They are literally slower in places than they were almost 100 years ago

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      USPS is not publicly subsidized. All of their operating costs come from the services they sell.

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    How bout we increase funding to those things instead. No one should be competing with either of those services.